turns out, the Sturgis Rally this year is starting to look like a massive super-spreader even....as predicted ****************************************************** * " Large in-person gatherings without social distancing and with individuals who have traveled outside the local area are classified as the “highest risk” for COVID-19 spread by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Between August 7 and August 16, 2020, nearly 500,000 motorcycle enthusiasts converged on Sturgis, South Dakota for its annual motorcycle rally. Large crowds, coupled with minimal mask-wearing and social distancing by attendees, raised concerns that this event could serve as a COVID-19 “super-spreader.” This study is the first to explore the impact of this event on social distancing and the spread of COVID-19. First, using anonymized cell phone data from SafeGraph, Inc. we document that (i) smartphone pings from non-residents, and (ii) foot traffic at restaurants and bars, retail establishments, entertainment venues, hotels and campgrounds each rose substantially in the census block groups hosting Sturgis rally events. Stay-at-home behavior among local residents, as measured by median hours spent at home, fell. Second, using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and a synthetic control approach, we show that by September 2, a month following the onset of the Rally, COVID-19 cases increased by approximately 6 to 7 cases per 1,000 population in its home county of Meade. Finally, difference-in-differences (dose response) estimates show that following the Sturgis event, counties that contributed the highest inflows of rally attendees experienced a 7.0 to 12.5 percent increase in COVID-19 cases relative to counties that did not contribute inflows. Descriptive evidence suggests these effects may be muted in states with stricter mitigation policies (i.e., restrictions on bar/restaurant openings, mask-wearing mandates). We conclude that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally generated public health costs of approximately $12.2 billion." * https://cheps.sdsu.edu/docs/Contagion_Externality_Sturgis_Motorcycle_Rally_9-5-20_Dave_et_al.pdf
Covid is non-transmissible as long as you’re “protesting” though, right? Thousands protesting in 48 of the 50 largest cities and I haven’t seen the armchair Covid experts say shit. This is the battle they choose? BLM t-shirts seem to stop the spread of Covid, or at least cause people to completely ignore it while pointing the finger elsewhere.
https://www.motherjones.com/coronav...linked-to-more-than-250000-coronavirus-cases/ Sturgis Motorcycle Rally Is Now Linked to More Than 250,000 Coronavirus Cases One study estimates the public health cost of the super-spreading event is near $12 billion.
Multiple studies have showed that the protests have been largely safe, for two main reasons: 1. People have worn masks for the most part. 2. People protest in a singular market and aren't transmitting the virus across multiple states. https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/little-evidence-protests-spread-coronavirus-us https://www.healthline.com/health-news/black-lives-matter-protests-didnt-contribute-to-covid19-surge https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...pread-but-republicans-are-still-blaming-them/ https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-tell-about-cluster-spread-of-the-coronavirus https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...idence-that-protests-spread-coronavirus-in-us But who cares about science, right?
there isn't any real evidence the protests cause any surges though: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/black-lives-matter-protests-didnt-contribute-to-covid19-surge https://www.nber.org/papers/w27408 https://thebottomline.as.ucsb.edu/2020/07/do-black-lives-matter-protests-increase-covid-19-cases https://www.vox.com/2020/6/26/21300636/coronavirus-pandemic-black-lives-matter-protests https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/coronavirus-cases-protests-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/...virus-risks-from-black-lives-matter-protests/ and maybe the opposite: https://coloradosun.com/2020/06/30/police-protests-coronavirus-spread/ for damn sure, with the trump campaign and fox news desperate to discredit the protests and the left in any way possible, we know that if there was any evidence out there that the protests caused spikes or surges it would be all over the news. But nada personally, I think it's certain that some people got Covid from attending protests. The question is would that same number of people contracted Covid if there were no protests? The evidence suggests yes
They have, but you and the GOP, and our idiot president have chosen to ignore it. https://files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdf Check the date on that : April 1o, 2020. Also, it is a sad fucking state of affairs that this scientific review has a whole section dedicated to sociological concerns about the stigma against mask wearers.
At what point to reevaluate? Take a half step back, away from politics and whatever else is guiding that dinghy you're floating in, and just ponder the conspiratorial absurdity and phenomenal coordination it would take to form the world as you describe it. You're drowning yourself in your snark, brother. You can still hate who you want and love who you want, but data should be common ground for all of us. Show me the data that something I believe is false, and you know what? I will believe it is false. It's what we call "learning."
The experts are 100% determination, unless you consider Trump, Tucker Carlson, Rush Limbaugh "experts".
Did they get there vote in for Trump before they got sick? Maybe they can vote twice if they find out their vote hasn't been counted yet?
Ok, to all the people who responded: You won’t convince me that people assembling in the streets isn’t a cause for concern while simultaneously bitching about Sturgis, I’m sorry. I have no problem with people wearing masks, and they may be effective in preventing some transmission, but they aren’t effective enough to completely disregard an entire block of the country packing themselves into city blocks shoulder to shoulder. I don’t care what any “studies” say, they’ve been changing their tune constantly through this whole debacle anyway. Masks or protesters or politics aside, what I really have a problem with here is the double standard and hypocrisy. It’s insane to think a political rally vs. a biker rally are two COMPLETELY different things in the basic context of assembly. Bitch about it all or quit you’re bitching.
You admit yourself you don't care what studies say, and that you can't be convinced of something, so why look for an answer? You won't accept any of the replies, so just live in your own bubble of truth.
I can find “studies” on either side. Doctors or virologists saying different things from one another. Studies aren’t scientific fact either btw, they are just studies with multiple different controls and variables. Most aren’t even 75% conclusive. And I’m not ‘searching for an answer’. I’m over this bullshit and have been for awhile. Wear a mask and hide the old folks, fine by me. Getting tired of watching young people’s prospects get stolen away at the threat of a disease that primarily kills people who are above the average life expectancy to begin with. Getting tired of corny ass commercials and clown ass politicians posturing in masks.
Well, if there is one thing scientists all agree upon, it's that the virus goes away when we get tired of thinking about it. barfo
You wonder why the rest of the world is laughing at America. read some of the bullshit on this thread by the Magats. Cant wait for these people to crawl back into their holes come november 3 when their stupidity will stop being so normalized
