Time for Chauncey to go

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  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I guess that tells you how important PGs are in this league.
     
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    the Blazers are flirting with the luxury tax. Portland is #17 in team payroll. Similar to Hawks, Timberwolves, this Blazers team should be medium strength, maybe might, hopefully make the playoffs. Stealth Tank Central, make games exciting, then use the trade deadline to slang vets for picks. Followed by benching everyone that's really good at basketball, including in-game benchings to secure the loss.

    The other stinky teams people keep using for comparison, Spurs, Hornets, Pistons, they are all on the bottom of team salaries. Fans have zero expectations because the owner didn't spend money to add star players.

    Right now, the Blazers have ~70m in contracted ballers that are on the IR. Luckily some of these guys will come back next month, which should help Portland.

    Portland lost R.Williams for the season which totally sucks. The Blazers haven't won a game since Timelord had his knee injury. Rob was definitely helping this team compete.
     
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    Lmao, Monty Williams current team is on a 11 game losing streak and worse record in the NBA.

    Popovich has coached the Spurs to the same record as us.

    Only Udoka has been doing well so far this season.

    A great coach only goes a long way with the talent they have in front of them.
     
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    I’m betting they are bottom of the league in defensive rating as well as offense by the end of December.
     
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    How many games in total have the Rockets' starters missed?

    Zero.


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    Amazing....isn't it? I turned to the wifey last night and said, "They're shooting 70% from 3 point range. We couldn't overcome this WITH everyone healthy".

    I actually like how the coach is developing this team. The Thunder just....well...thundered us. The foul discrepancy is getting pretty ridiculous in my eyes as well.
     
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    I can just imagine how it would play out in the national media if the Blazers were to fire a guy as popular as Chauncey when he’s coaching a rebuilding team missing it’s top three point guards and starting a couple of G-Leaguers. Yeah, that’d go over well.
     
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    The numbers when both had similar players were almost identical.

    When given players who could play defense Stotts coached the team to a top 10 defense.
     
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    Couldn't care less about that.
     
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    Stotts would be better at one thing....he would rock the plaid better.

    That's about it.
     
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    Stotts was an above-average coach. Chauncey is a below-average coach. Fair?
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Stotts was a really experienced coach and Chauncey is still learning. So with Stotts you knew you were getting in my opinion a very average coach, not above average and with Chauncey he doesn't look even average right now but he could become better than average and he could be getting there before we need him to be.

    Right now Chauncey seems pretty bad at in game stuff, besides motivation but is that him or is it who he has trying to execute what he wants? As far as player development goes him and his staff seem pretty good but is that them or just our players?

    This shit is hard to know because Chauncey has had rosters that Cronin has admitted were extremely flawed and now a rebuilding roster. It was easy to see what kind of coach Stotts was and he was decent/average but if he would have been given rosters that made sense around Dame instead of CJ constantly being the second best player on the team and a horrible fit with Dame, then we could have been a contender because all you need if you have a good roster that fits together is a decent coach.
     
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    You don’t see a connection between what would likely be seen as an unfair firing and the ability to attract a quality coach? Just the fact that the Blazers suck and are likely to suck for multiple years probably nixes any chance of hiring a quality experienced coach. Throw in the negatives associated with firing Chauncey when he’s in a no-win position and I think you’d be lucky to get someone better.
     
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    "OKC shot 71.2% from the field in the first half vs the Blazers. That's the best shooting percentage in one half by any team in the NBA this season."
     
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    I don't think you fire Billups until you already have his replacement set. But we really need to be looking...
     
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    I just don’t see that happening anytime soon. If things don’t improve once Scoot, Ant and Malcolm are back, maybe, but not now.
     
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    I'm not sure how Scoot, Ant and Malcolm come in to play. I had this opinion when they were all still healthy.
     
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    Not trying to be a smart ass, but it’s Cronin’s opinion that matters. I don’t see him cutting Chauncey loose at this point. He’s not in a hurry because nobody expects the Blazers to win, and he’s going to want to see how the full roster works as a unit before making a coaching change.
     
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  20. BonesJones

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    You tend have this subtle context behind what you post that is very evident. "Keep swapping coaches", etc.

    Your posts are rarely about basketball when coaching gets brought up. It's all just "look at the roster", "fans expect to much", "coaching doesn't matter", "fans just always want a new coach", type of stuff. Never really about the basketball, or system, or anything that coaching actually pours into. You could have a literal rock on the sideline doing the coaching and could still apply all these same responses no matter what. You could not watch a single second of basketball all season long and just look at box scores and say all this stuff. It's
     
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