Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by blazerkor, Jan 17, 2023.
It's the exchange rate.
Could we get Siakam for Ant, Nurk and two future firsts? Obviously taking the protection off of this year's first. Also, as is rumored, they would have to move FVV.
I think a three team trade would be better
Blazers get Siakam and Flynn
Suns get FVV and Nurkic
Raptors get Ant and Ayton
There would be other pieces to the deal probably but that the gist of it
How about Watford and some 2nd round picks 5 years from now for Hachimura?
Bottom line is we need to get a second all star by using Ant, Nurk and whatever draft capital we have to. Then use Hart and/or whoever else and maybe some second rounders to get someone like Bamba... or more likely Bamba because I think he's the only starting level C in the league whose team is trying to get rid of him.
Didnt he just get traded to the Lakers?
OK, maybe I already tried this one. three way with Charlotte and Orlando. Gets rid of Nurk and his salary. Gets a young forward with defensive chops. Gets another small guard but one with better D than Simons and willing to come off the bench. Gets Mo Bamba. I only do this deal if we cannot get Siakam.
Simons, Nurk and Brown to Charlotte
Rozier, Plumlee and Jalen McDaniels to Portland
Oubre to Orlando and Bamba to Portland
Trade doesn’t work but I don’t think your getting anything good from Charlotte unless your taking back Gordon Hayward?
I think Charlotte loves this deal if they like Nurk. They get rid of Rozier's contract and replace with someone 5 years younger. They only give up three expiring contracts.
Orlando gives up someone they barely use and get a guy at a positon they need more.
As I said Portland gets rid of Nurk, gets a willing 6th man and a young 2 way forward plus Mo Bamba. And a center in Plumlee who is a good passer, much more efficient shooter than Nurk. keeps his head in the game and more consistent.
If you don't count Rozier's stats for this year (trying to do too much with Ball out?) he has better over all stats then Simons. Not quite as efficient shooter or quite as good at threes, but better at assists and rebounding and quite a bit better advanced defensive stats.
Trade does work, sorry I can't even seem to post the link to it. We get back four good players and get rid of a headache and a poor defensive player.
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Probably try to get another asset from Charlotte. a pick?
With the rumor that Phoenix is interested in trading for CP3's successor and seeing names like Quickley and FVV. I would think a guy they would like next to Brooks for the foreseeable future would be Ant. When you couple that with the fact that they weren't seemingly excited about giving a true C the max and that if they got Ant, Cam Payne would be pushed out of the rotation... I think a trade of Ant and Nurk for Ayton and Cam Payne would make sense. I think they might want some draft capitol so I'd be willing to give them up to our 2029 FRP lotto protected but would rather give them a few seconds.
If we did that trade we could then look to trade Josh for a backup big... I know Miami is the team rumored to be most interested in Josh so they would have to send enough to a team like Orlando for a guy like Bamba, for us to give them Josh because they really don't have anything we would want for Josh.
I think since we're trying to go all in right now but also have a pretty young team around Dame and Jerami, it might make sense to take a big swing at a guy on a rookie contract. I think Houston has a bit of a minutes crunch at forward right now so they might be willing to give up Eason for two future firsts and Justise. The two firsts would be 2025 without protection and 2027 top 10 protected and if it fell in the top ten then the Rockets would get our 2027 second and the Pelicans'.
Overhauled new rotation Dame, Shae, Eason, Jerami, Ayton, GP2, Payne, Bamba, Nas and Drew. We'd be really deep with end of bench developing young guys like Jabari, Keon, Trendon and even GB3.
1) Suns are not going to give up Cam
2) I have no desire for Ayton to be anywhere near Portland
3) Houston will not give up Eason that easily
I don't see why the Suns wouldn't give up Cam, it might take that 2029 FRP to make it work but if they have CP3, Booker and Ant as their rotation with guys like Lee, Shamet and Washington on that roster, they would probably need to give up Cam. As far as Ayton goes, that's your take. You may be right about Eason but they have so much young talent on that team that they don't have time to play them all and continuing to stock up on picks might make sense but you're right that it might not. I think if it's not Eason then you take the best you can get for Hart and picks that you have and go for the best forward possible.
This was just an idea. I think we should for sure be talking to Toronto and doing everything we can to make Ant, Nurk and future FRPs (as many as it takes of the three we could make available) into Siakam. I think we need to do that now because it lets Toronto know that they need to get the best move for FVV together in order to make room for Ant. Then we get a starting level C for Josh (will likely need to be a three team) nothing too special just mobile and big, then hopefully a backup big 4-5 for Justise and future seconds and/or a first if there's one left over after getting Siakam.
The player that Charlotte really wants to trade is Gordon Hayward. if you’re not willing to take Hayward back in the trade, it’s almost not worth it to discuss trading with the hornets.
That's another nice thing about this trade. Not only do I think it helps us right now but doesn't hurt our future. No draft picks going out. One 23 year old (Simons) going out but two 24 year olds (Mcdaniels, Bamba) coming in. We gain size and length.
Have you talked with their GM?
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