Politics Turning taters into tots (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

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  1. Orion Bailey

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    Only because people like you allow it to be by continually voting party line.
     
  2. riverman

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    The democratic party has brought both a black two term president to current politics...and nominated the first female presidential candidate and it looks like now they're gearing up for a cabinet with a VP and many positions of authority to women ...several of them black women. I'd say things have changed from when women and blacks couldn't vote...it's Trump that wants to send us back to the Jim Crow era....great again? Hell no....Trump has been a major setback for civil rights..wouldn't even attend John Lewis' funeral. That tells you something about the partisan divide in 2020
     
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    Yes but I've heard so many times that Libertarians and the Green party is why Hillary lost. So 'minuscule' is apparently enough for Democrats to complain about it.
     
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    Sure. What are you going to do about it? Nothing? Thought so.

    Certainly no one is going to bother to create a third party with compelling candidates and robust fundraising. That's a LOT of work, and what would the payoff be? It's easier to change one of the two major parties from within.

    We've had two parties for 170 years or so, but they haven't been the same two parties. The names have stayed the same, but faces have changed quite a bit.

    Which leads us back to there being only two choices.

    barfo
     
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    Also it'll be even smaller this time around... I wonder why that is? Oh, cause of the bullying, and suppression. Telling people their only choices are the 'two' if you don't vote for one of the two, it's a wasted vote so they might as well stay home. Telling people if they don't pick one of the two, then politically their voice doesn't deserve to be heard. Yup, that sounds like voter intimidation to me, if you aren't voting how we tell you, you can vote then you don't get a say! Full circle back to the two rival gangs fighting for power and will do anything to silence a third gang trying to show up by stopping them before they get big enough to matter. Sounds like we agree. The only difference is you have found quarter with one of the gangs.
     
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    Hillary won the popular vote....I voted Libertarian last time and it wouldn't affect the outcome in Oregon...plenty of people complain about the elections and candidates and lack of access to other parties but that doesn't mean shit today...unless you choose to be apolitical which is fine. If you're going to talk about complaining election results don't forget the hanging chads that gave Bush a win....parity
     
  7. barfo

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    Democrats, being more-or-less human, complain about shit just like republicans and like people who fantasize that there could a third party somehow.

    barfo
     
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    she was so unpopular that she beat trump by more then 3 million votes.

    I have a question for you tbf. Let's go over 3 scenarios trump has done.

    1) Do you think trump handled the corona virus
    a) very poor
    b) poor
    c) neither good or bad
    d) good
    c) very good

    Would you trust Biden or trump to handle another situation similar to the corona virus? (please don;t cop out with the "neither" response as it's one or the other)
     
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    nobody has ever bestowed that kind of power on barfo.....single handedly allowing partisan loyalty....nah....that's a stretch
     
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    Not to geek it up, but as a UX designer, this actually tends to be an interesting design call. You're right that most people tend to be overwhelmed by a lot of opening options, but they also tend to be overwhelmed by, say, a few menu choices that go a mile deep. Which was what some UX designers tried for a while...limiting the options in a menu, but making each drop-down really long.

    So ultimately, you end up having to strike a balance--and how many top-level options versus how much depth is good tends to depend on what your site or app is doing and what types of people use it. Sometimes you need actual UI testing with users to figure out the right balance and sometimes the right decision is to use multiple affordances--some menus with a manageable number of choices in each and maybe another type of mechanic, like swipes or hotkeys. Obviously, you can overdo affordances too, but multiple ways to generate options can sometimes be easier for users if each one is manageable.
     
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    last time means nothing and a lot of states were very close. Different time and different opponent and most of the polls were close. in their votes. You believe whatever polls you want as polls are only a guideline anyway but I would rather be on Bidens end of the polls than trumps end of the polls and the reason why he is so up in arms.
     
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    She was unpopular in everywhere but the coasts. California has a coastline that's where most of those 3million votes came from...
    1.) I think the entire government Trump on down, local and everything handled it poorly, democrats and republicans.
    2.) lol, I don't have to pick one. That's been my point from the get-go, too many republicans and democrats want to make you play this game where you have to pick which gang you want to be in.
     
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    Are you okay with trumps handling of the Corona virus? YES or NO? Quit playing the fence sitting game of well both sides did lousy.
     
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    UX development drives me crazy... I get stuck doing a lot of it, even though I mainly build tools and stuff, but it's a small team... Anyways the worst part of the job is the user feedback. "There's too much data on the screen", "Not enough data", "Then like 20 people all want different things". UX Design has to be the hardest developer job ever lol.
     
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    1.) I think the entire government Trump on down, local and everything handled it poorly, democrats and republicans.
    So... which part of that is hard to understand...?
     
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    Let me ask you this, do you think US Politics happens in a vacuum and Trump is the only one who 'handled' the corona virus? Yes or No?
    is that the game we're playing? Attribute Trump these god-like authoritarian powers, where everything can be thrown at his feet. So it absolves the rest of our government from the crap they pulled.
    I think it was handled poorly by the government, Trumps included in that. So is congress, so is the house, so are the governors, so are the mayors.
     
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    Trump didn't handle the virus so no...he couldn't be held responsible for handling it at all...he's responsible for politicizing it and playing it down and actually lying about it to the public..he was too busy defending the confederate flag to handle it.
     
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    I believe that the reason the 2 (or limited number of parties) works is because it tries to strike this kind of balance - Instead of having the users face 20+ options (like places like Italy, Israel do) - you have the options curated by the parties - where people can choose to participate earlier to curate these options (via campaigning and later primaries) - until there are a manageable number of options for the general population - if this number is around 2 (the US, UK) or 5 (Germany) is another question - but my point is that the idea that there is no choice because we curate the number of significant options down to 2 (or 3 as sort of happened when Perot ran) for the general election is wrong. There are a lot more options - they just go through a thinner funnel with a longer neck for the general election instead of a wide one with a short neck.
     
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    It is as if some people don't read your posts. Then ask you questions in which you already provided answers.

    :biglaugh::bwpopcorn:
     
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    The part where I didn't ask if anyone else was responsible. I was simply asking if you feel trump handled the pandemic properly. Quit trying to deflect as you are now using trump tactics. You just simply want to put blame on everyone. Everyone isn't president of the USA are they? There is only one president and he's the leader of this country so it's his leadership that is needed during times like this right?
     

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