Update: Jones' suspended for 1 year

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    Chael was right, Jones popped for estrogen blockers per the NSAC hearing. The tainted supplement argument is out of the window. What he tested for would never be in supplements. They're counter productive to supplements.
     
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    The substances he popped for are only injectable from what I'm reading.
     
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    Debunk that. It comes in tablets.
     
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    Jones came back positive for hydroxy-clomiphene, “an anti-estrogenic agent” and “letrozole metabolite,” an “aromatase inhibitor,” NSAC attorney Caroline Bateman said today during a hearing in Las Vegas. The substances, which are both banned year-round by the World Anti-Doping Agency, are consistent with the type named by Jones’ ex-training partner and opponent, Rashad Evans, who first claimed the interim champ tested positive for estrogen blockers.

    Estrogen blockers can potentially act in tandem with performance-enhancers by helping to mitigate their side effects, and are also thought to restart natural testosterone production.

    A temporary suspension placed on Jones’ Nevada fight license was subsequently extended by a unanimous vote, while a formal hearing is expected for September or October. Jones has retained noted anti-doping attorney Howard Jacobs, who’s previously defended MMA fighters Sean Sherk, Alexander Shlemenko, and, most recently, Tim Means. Jacobs aided UFC middleweight Means during his ultimately successful appeal to the promotion’s anti-doping partner, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).

    http://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/nsac-u...trogen-blockers-receives-temporary-suspension
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    They didn't catch him using synthetic testosterone or HGH but the counter agents he was using suggests he was on both, possibly in addition to other anabolics.

    I don't know what his defence will be.

    I have zero faith the NSAC will handle this properly.
     
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    With his previous cocaine use and his smug attitude, factored in with obvious masking agents, I suspect 2 years minimum.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Is attempting to cheat the test regarded more harshly than failing outright?

    Edit: not actually sure if the second agent that restarts test production is to bring it up to healthy levels or prevent it from being so low as to be a red flag for testers.
     
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    I would think attempting to cover up is worse than actually getting caught.

    Nate Diaz has to be loving this.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    The NSAC will find a way to fuck this up to the point where Jones will get a reduction. He'd be looking at 4-years in California. In Nevada probably one.
     
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    Jon Bones Jones Retweeted DSnitching

    I know we are not in the same boat, I'll just leave it at that

    DSnitching @Mr_Beautiful323
    @JonnyBones Do you think Brock took steroids? Or is he in the same boat ? He's always looked that way
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    Even in times like this, Jones is still a smug SOB.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    He knows in his heart he isn't a cheater. Ronda knows she is undefeated. GSP believes in aliens.

    Best not to dwell on these things.
     
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    And aldo was never NOT champion
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    Some interesting points I saw on Reddit--

    Why would Jones start juicing now, against an opponent he's already beaten?

    Obvious answer-- he didn't just start. He's been doing it for a while.

    Conclusion-- career cheat.

    Fucking sad state of affairs.
     
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    I believe he's a career cheater. Fuck, allegedly he hid under a cage for up to 8 hours to avoid a test. Unbelievable.

    Jones has mailed his supplements into WADA for testing. That's great, but what does it accomplish? He could have just as easily tainted the supplements himself before mailing them in.
     
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    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    As discussed previously it makes no sense for supplements to contain what he popped for.
     
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    OSP:
    “On June 18th, Jon Jones was caught taking Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) drugs. This means he was on some form of Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDS) before this date. The only real questions are: When did he start taking them? Was it before his fight with me or after?
    There are not many people who can answer this question, but Jon Jones is one of them. So, I am asking: When did you start taking PEDS Jon? I wanted to fight the best fighter in the world, but I did not sign up to fight a cheater. So, be a stand-up person, tell us all the truth.
    We all know you were on PEDS because you got caught taking PCT drugs. Just tell the world the truth.”

     
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    Boom, OSP with the bomb!
     
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    Somebody REALLY needs to tell Jon's manager to STFU.

    http://www.mmamania.com/2016/7/20/1...lement-blaming-drugged-girl-getting-raped-mma
     
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    USADA allows athletes to send in all of their sups for testing/clearance. If one of the sups they cleared winds up being tainted down the line the athlete is not in the wrong.

    The thought of JJ going to GNC and grabbing shit off the shelves without a second thought is ludicrous. Fighters get that shit sent to them for free. In fact, JJ has a sponsorship with GAT or whatever it's called.

    I don't know what's preventing athletes from going to GNC and taking everything off the shelf and sending it to USADA after a failed test, hoping something will stick.

    That Malki Kawa is fuckin' greasy, boys.
     
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    Arthur Jones, brother of Jon, just violated an NFL PED test.

    All in the family, amirite?
     

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