Another new thread from me, which I'm sure also has been slightly covered in other threads, but with the recent loss of the Pelicans pick as an asset, have been brainstorming on methods of using our large TPE as cap space essentially to acquire additional assets. Whether to then turn and flip those for someone like Grant, or making the trade of our 6 pick more palatable... So who are some teams that might be looking to dump salary? There's very few teams with cap space this year, so someone might place good value on the ability to offer slightly more than the mle to out bid other teams. That's where we come in. Or maybe it's used as incentive to grease the wheels on a deal. Grant for Bledsoe, and we'll take olynk off your hands so you have space to chase Brunson, etc. Basically, another specialized brainstorming thread.
it takes a lot of work to try and figure which teams will have real cap-space and which teams won't. For instance, Blazers only have 93M in guaranteed salary which 'leaves' 29M in cap-space, but we know the Blazers almost certainly won't have any I'm not sure how much value those TPE's will have at the draft or during the off-season. Probably some. But I'd tend to believe they'll have a lot more value approaching the trade deadline
I'm thinking of deals similar to, like, last season, Detroit traded plumlee, a useful C, and the recent #37 pick to get off of plumlees deal. I imagine there should be deals similar.
Hawks have the #16 pick and a 147 mil payroll for next year. I'll take a salary dump of Huerter, Bogdanovic, or maybe even Gallo for that pick. Ideally we send Bledsoe out in the deal too so we can retain our TPE.
Bogdanovic and 16 for 36. Then turn around and move 16 with Bledsoe guaranteed at 16 million and 2 future 2nds for Grant. Dame/simons/Bogdanovic/grant/nurk With Hart, little, Winslow, Watford and #6 off the bench is a solid rotation, IMO.
How about Denver? MPJ's contract kicks in next year, so they're gonna have: Jokic -- 34 mil, with a possible superduper max extension for the next year coming this summer. Murray -- 32 mil MPJ -- 30 mil Gordon -- 20mil Barton -- 14 mil Morris -- 9 mil Green -- 8 mil They have nearly 156 mil in real $ contracts (and not just capholds). That Gordon deal would slot in perfectly to our TPE AND they have the #21 pick. Curious to see what they do if they get swept.
just takes a lil bit of creativity and steadfast negotiation. I just dunno if Cronin is the guy for it.
Joe Harris (39 mil/ 2 yrs) + #23 for Bledsoe? He's not completely useless but he's gotta healthy first. Then move 23 + TPE for something?
Last one, prolly a dream but Markkenen + 14 would be interesting. I don't think Lauri is anything more than a bench player on a good team at this point, nor do i think CLE would dump him using the #14 pick. But I want to see what their plans are with Sexton. Garland also is going to be a max candidate the next year, so their books might get tight even with Love's contract expiring in 2023.
Bledsoe would have to be guaranteed before he's traded and that wouldn't save the Hawks any money next year. No incentive for them
i thought there was debate around this. is this for certain? Switch Bogie with Huerter and you save them quite a bit more long term $ if that's the case.
I'm confused by this. I get that in order to trade him for the full amount he'd have to be guaranteed, then it's just normal trade rules applied to his 19M salary but the 3.9M guarantee could be traded as well, even though he'd be a free agent next season? I thought the NBA closed that loophole in the last CBA? Or am I thinking of team options...? Or maybe the 3.9M can be traded until his guarantee date....which would be 6/28? maybe I've stumbled my way into understanding
This is only for outgoing salary matching purposes. Whoever receives Bledsoe has to be able to accept his full contract value. For example a trade with Detroit: Grant -> received into TPE Bledsoe -> Grant's salary In this scenario, Bledsoe's contract would not have to be guaranteed any further. Versus a trade with Atlanta: Collins -> Bledsoe (contract is too large for TPE) Bledsoe -> Collins In this scenario, Bledsoe's contract would have to be guaranteed to a point where Portland could legally obtain Collins (almost fully).
I do think we're allowed to send the rights to our pick to any team and that they don't have to match the rights to that pick with any outgoing salary. So essentially you can always package a pick with a TPE, even after you've made it but not after you've signed the player you've taken with that pick.
I'm not sure that I understand what you're saying here. As I understand it, TPEs can only be used in a trade to acquire a player who's salary is greater than what is being sent out to the other team. TPEs can't be traded themselves. A pick, as you say, has no salary value in a trade so it can always be added to a deal.
