Vote: Yay or Nay the 2 trades?

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Yay or Nay the trades?

  1. Yay CJ/Nance --- Yay Norm/Roco

    12 vote(s)
    20.7%
  2. Yay CJ/Nance --- Nay Norm/Roco

    23 vote(s)
    39.7%
  3. Nay CJ/Nance --- Yay Norm/Roco

    1 vote(s)
    1.7%
  4. Nay CJ/Nance --- Nay Norm/Roco

    22 vote(s)
    37.9%
  1. WesleyMatthews

    WesleyMatthews Well-Known Member

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    What do you think?
     
  2. TheGoldRanger

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    I dont know what is worse, being a Blazers fan during the Telfair/Ha days or right now. Its really depressing and hard to imagine it will get better from here.
     
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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    CJ was over-paid and a bad fit but far from useless. Powell was "just" a good supporting player. Nance and RoCo had their obvious flaws, but they had some value. We couldn't get even ONE decent prospect in return? We got roughly the same value in draft picks for those 4 guys that Indy got for LaVert alone?

    No one is that incompetent.
     
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    Is this really even a question?
     
  5. WesleyMatthews

    WesleyMatthews Well-Known Member

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    The draft pick from NO has more value than the pick Indy got, and Hart has value. I would've liked more for CJ, but I think there are legit positives with this deal. I can see why some would support and some would be against it.

    I have no explanation for the Powell/Roco trade though, that was beyond incompetent.
     
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    I'm waiting for those posters here who kept saying that the Powell/RoCo trade had to be done first to explain today. Nothing about today's trade pivoted on the Powell/RoCo trade
     
  7. illmatic99

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    Agreed, but there is this...

    we were not a tax paying team, but still above the cap when we did the CJ trade because of that first trade (last bullet point). I wanna see if this turns out meaning we get another player back today using that TPE.

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  8. Ed O

    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    I liked the second trade but disliked the first... and I dislike the first even more now. The first one had value because it got us under the tax threshold, and I think we would have done that with the second trade alone.

    Actually the main advantage of the first trade is that we're in ABSOLUTE TANK MODE. Billups would have probably played Norm and RoCo a lot and we might have won a few more games because of it. Now... ? Ant shoots 30 times a game and we lose repeatedly. :)
     
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    How about a wait and see, or an indifferent option?
     
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    It’s really easy to see how they get better from here.
    Tank for a top 3-5 pick.
    Pelicans pick 5-7 ideally.
    Boom, headshot. Championship parades.
     
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    They took their ball and went home
     
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    How could a fan be indifferent?
     
  13. Orion Bailey

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    by not jumping to conclusions until the dust has settled?
    Seems everyone is quick to draw a line one way or another when they have no clue where the road ends.
     
  14. Five Second Violation

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    B+ for the CJ deal and F- for the Norm deal.

    Love the fact that David Griffin was a dummy and didn't protect the pick much. Gave me Gerald Wallace to the Nets flashbacks.
     
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  15. WesleyMatthews

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    I'm not asking you to bet your house on how it turns out years from now.

    Just, your opinion right now. Of course future results could change how this or any NBA transaction later looks. But a knowledgeable fan can certainly have a current opinion of how good or bad their teams action is.
     
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  16. Orion Bailey

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    okay but if i buy stock im not looking at the IMMEDIATE results.

    most things take time to provide a proper analysis. Giving it until Thursday is not years from now.
     
  17. WesleyMatthews

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    Stock is a perfect example. If you buy you feel it is undervalued. If you sell you feel its overvalued.

    Now what the resulting profit or loss of a stock transaction is will never be known until you close the position. But you can have an opinion of what it will do when you opened the position.

    You are right that I could have had 3 choices for each trade... but then its a poll with 9 options, confusing. Instead, 4 options is enough to get a general idea on what the majority of the board thinks on these two trades. That is the purpose of the poll.
     
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  18. oldmangrouch

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    And that's how you get a ten-year-tenure Neil Olshey. Every bad GM in league history has hidden behind 2 excuses - the fans are too dumb to understand his brilliant plan; the fans are too impatient to let his brilliant plan come to fruition. My sincere advice to you is don't trust the BS!
     
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    I'm sorry, but next season at the least I'll be watching a healthy Dame Lillard play basketball. That does not compare to the Telfair days.
     
  20. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member Moderator

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    This was one of the worst trades ever.
     
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