Warriors make 5 year, 90 million dollar offer to Brand

ooooooooooooooooooooooooh shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapadoodles!!!!



You talk about a massive NUT in the face, hahaha

 

NOW THAT!! would be funny.

both guys switching teams... big gamble though by the Warriors with Brand coming of a major injury.

 

Oh that is funny. If they sign Brand, they couldn't sign Arenas right?

 

Wow well that sucks for the Clippers.

And Maggette left for San Antonio today, the Clippers were being talked about as just ahead of Phoenix and Dallas in the west this morning, now they could be even worse than they were last year.

 

Brand is no more injury prone than B-Diddy...actually he's less injury prone. But the Warriors would be a very good team if they land Brand.

Ellis, Jackson,Harrington,Brand, Pietrus, Barnes, etc..........

 

I would be happy with this. LOL

 

The perfect PF to compliment Biedrins' game. Wow, that would be solid for the Warriors.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dream @ Jul 2 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brand is no more injury prone than B-Diddy...actually he's less injury prone. But the Warriors would be a very good team if they land Brand.

Ellis, Jackson,Harrington,Brand, Pietrus, Barnes, etc..........</div>

What about Biedrins? Would this move make it impossible to re-sign both Ellis and Biedrins?

But that lineup is decent on paper. There is just NO PASSING on that lineup. There would have to be some type of deal I think to make that work.

Also I guess that replacing Biedrins with Brandan Wright with Brand as the center would be pretty decent as well. Maybe there could be a sign and trade for a good PG with a package like Biedrins and Harrington or Jackson.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clif25 @ Jul 2 2008, 11:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dream @ Jul 2 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brand is no more injury prone than B-Diddy...actually he's less injury prone. But the Warriors would be a very good team if they land Brand.

Ellis, Jackson,Harrington,Brand, Pietrus, Barnes, etc..........</div>

What about Biedrins? Would this move make it impossible to re-sign both Ellis and Biedrins?

But that lineup is decent on paper. There is just NO PASSING on that lineup. There would have to be some type of deal I think to make that work.

Also I guess that replacing Biedrins with Brandan Wright with Brand as the center would be pretty decent as well. Maybe there could be a sign and trade for a good PG with a package like Biedrins and Harrington or Jackson.
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As I understand it, with Baron gone, the Warriors have roughly 40mil of cap room before signing Ellis, Monta, and whoever else. Presuming we sign Ellis, Beans, and Azu to multi-year contracts, we should have around 20mil to sign FA's.

 

Both Biedrins and Ellis are are Qualifying Veterans (Bird players) that we can go over the cap to resign. The only limit would be Cohan's budget, definitely less than whatever the luxury tax limit is (estimated to be around $71 million). Even if Arenas or Brand accepted our offer, we'd be at about $50 million in salary, leaving about $20 million to sign Ellis/Biedrins. Obviously we'd want to save as much as we can because there's still roster spots that we'd have to fill.

Edit: Darn you Kensaku, posting faster than me!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zhone @ Jul 2 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Both Biedrins and Ellis are are Qualifying Veterans (Bird players) that we can go over the cap to resign. The only limit would be Cohan's budget, definitely less than whatever the luxury tax limit is (estimated to be around $71 million). Even if Arenas or Brand accepted our offer, we'd be at about $50 million in salary, leaving about $20 million to sign Ellis/Biedrins. Obviously we'd want to save as much as we can because there's still roster spots that we'd have to fill.

Edit: Darn you Kensaku, posting faster than me!</div>

LOL, don't worry, your explanations are much more in-depth than mine.

 

i was just reading tim kawakami's take on this on his blog and we don't get brand because he takes less than the warriors offer and baron takes less.

"It’s important that Brand takes less than $15M per AND signs with the Clips before Baron signs because Brand’s CAP HOLD as a free agent is larger than that, and the only way the Clippers can fit Baron in starting at $11M is if Brand’s deal starts right around $12M or so.

Well, the Warriors can and might have already offered Brand more than $18M per over five and about $13M in total worth above the Clippers’ proposed deal.

If Brand does not take that deal, and the Baron numbers can’t be manipulated lower… either Brand is walking away from $13M (the difference between a Warriors’ max offer and the Clippers with-Baron max offer) or Baron gets less than he expected from the LACs or the Clippers will have to pay Brand more and use the sign-and-trade route to get Davis.

But that’s mostly just a shot across the Clippers’ bow: Assuming the Clippers officially sign Davis first on July 9, they then can re-sign Brand above and beyond the salary cap.

Here’s where it gets interesting!

The Clips might be limited by their own budget qualms and maybe they are. But, if they’re determined too keep Brand, and I’m sure they are, they can damn the Baron consequences and give Brand the same starting salary that the Warriors can (105% of his last salary, so the new starting salary would be $16.11M), higher annual raises ($1.69M vs. $1.29M) and tack on that last year (at $24.56M) if they want.

That would hurt Davis’ status and salary, but adjustments could be made.

I’m not saying the Clippers would love to do this. And, if Falk jiggered this deal, it’s unlikely that he’d throw out everything he tacitly agreed to just because the Warriors went mega-money on the Clips’ forehead. (Falk is NOT Rob Pellinka, the agent for Carlos Boozer when Boozer backed out of a verbal agreement with Cleveland and jumped to Utah.)

Brand wants to stay in LA. Brand wants to play with Baron. They did this together. It’s still an entertaining move by Mullin and the Warriors, but the most likely result is that Brand gets more than the Clippers thought and/or Baron gets slightly less."

Elton Brand Max Play

 

Mullin: Evil genius secretly sabotaging the future Clippers, giving him one less team to worry about in future playoff runs?

I have to think these contracts he's offering are really too crazy, though. I don't think he's making these moves just to force the other teams' hands, but thinks its the best additions he can make, but it does make more sense if they were just to force other teams hands/embarass Baron perhaps.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zhone @ Jul 2 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mullin: Evil genius secretly sabotaging the future Clippers, giving him one less team to worry about in future playoff runs?</div>
I hope so. Lets see what we have up our sleeves

 

Hahahaha, I love this move! Seems like an A hole move by the Warriors.

You steal Baron? Alright, take him. We'll take Brand!