Who would u trade vince for With all the rumors floating around in raptorland, something came to mind. There is nobody in the nba i would trade vince carter for. NOBODY. While i wouldn't rank vince #1 in the league, i do think he had the tools to be the most dominate player in the league. Is there a player in the nba with more potential. I would hate to trade vince away now, only to see him blossom into the player he should be, with a little help, and go on a championship run.... to bad T-Mac had no vision and didn't stay in toronto.
1. You'd trade him for LeBron, Tim Duncan or KG without even having second thoughts. 2. You judge a player on what he's achieved, not what he is capable of, especially a guy in Carter's position who's been around for a while. 3. To be talking about a player's potential, rather than what he's achieved, when he's 26-27 says it all. Super talented, but there are guys you'd rather have.
norespect, this thread belongs in the Raptor forum, this forum is to discuss potential deals that you hear about, not ones that you want to start. Someone should be along to move this shortly. Thanks.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sir Desmond:</div><div class="quote_post">1. You'd trade him for LeBron, Tim Duncan or KG without even having second thoughts. 2. You judge a player on what he's achieved, not what he is capable of, especially a guy in Carter's position who's been around for a while. 3. To be talking about a player's potential, rather than what he's achieved, when he's 26-27 says it all. Super talented, but there are guys you'd rather have.</div> Wait a sec, u'd trade Vince for Lebron?! No way, he isnt even proven in the nba all that hype. How could u trade someone like vince for a rookie?! Does he have clutch in the nba? Has he won any nba awards yet? Did MJ get as much hype as Lebron when he entered the league? or did McGrady? No, they had to prove themselves in the nba. Obviously Lebron will get good with all the touches he gets with the ball, but as for trading Lebron for Vince? no way, Vince would lead Cavs to the playoffs without a doubt
Lets see here, players I'd trade Vince for. Ok, lets start here, Kobe Bryant, but, this is only assuming he gets waived of his legal problems. Kobe, I think is a much better player than Vince. Kobe has showed this year that he doesn't have to be selfish anymore. How, well, his team is getting 5 or 6 players a night in double figures, so, I think that shows that he's not nearly as selfish as you people put him out to be. Who else, well, Shaq. Most dominant player in the game, period. You said Vince had the ability to be, no way. Just because he can dunk on anyone, doesn't mean he has the ability to be. His jumper isn't nearly good enough, well, better word, consistent enough for him to be that. He's not a great defender either. I'd also take KG over him in a heartbeat. I don't know if there is a more complete player in the game than him. He's able to dominate inside and he can also step out and hit the 20 footer. There are just a few players I'd take for Vince. And, I'd take any of em in a heartbeat over him.
Players I would take over Carter Duncan Garnett Shaq Kobe T-mac Webber Dirk Kidd Pierce Jermaine O'Neal Thats about it..I'm thinking not only now but for the future..which is why JO is there.Mcgrady's team has struggled but he is still the better all-round player by far.I would also put on that list...players like Melo,Lebron,Amare.For the future.Vince is a very exciting player and a pretty good scorer....but he isn't really on the level of players like Duncan,KG,Shaq e.t.c <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">There is nobody in the nba i would trade vince carter for. NOBODY.</div> Congrats you are offically the biggest Vince Carter fanatic here..well done.
Here we go with this hype thing. The media did not just pick LeBron and say "ok, this is the guy we will try and make money off of" - They, like the fans, came to LeBron because of what he was doing ON THE COURT. Thus, the number one pick and putting up unreal, unheard of numbers for a rookie, let alone an 18 year old. blah
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post"> Congrats you are offically the biggest Vince Carter fanatic here..well done.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting allnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Players I would take over Carter Duncan Garnett Shaq Kobe T-mac Webber Dirk Kidd Pierce Jermaine O'Neal .</div> none of these cats would have been taken over Carter two years ago ! Injuries interfered the last couple of seasons .. and now he's healthy .. he's on his way to earn his " Usual " seat over all of these guys
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">none of these cats would have been taken over Carter two years ago ! Injuries interfered the last couple of seasons .. and now he's healthy .. he's on his way to earn his " Usual " seat over all of these guys</div>Alright, even two years ago Vince Carter was not a top five player. Look at this - 2000-2001 FIRST TEAM Tim Duncan, San Antonio Chris Webber, Sacramento Shaquille O'Neal, L.A. Lakers Allen Iverson, Philadelphia Jason Kidd, Phoenix SECOND TEAM Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Vince Carter, Toronto Dikembe Mutombo, Atlanta-Phil Kobe Bryant, LA Lakers Tracy McGrady, Orlando 2001-02 FIRST TEAM Tim Duncan, San Antonio Tracy McGrady, Orlando Shaquille O'Neal, LA Lakers Jason Kidd, New Jersey Kobe Bryant, LA Lakers SECOND TEAM Kevin Garnett, Minnesota Chris Webber, Sacramento Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Gary Payton, Seattle Allen Iverson, Philadelphia THIRD TEAM Ben Wallace, Detroit Jermaine O'Neal, Indiana Dikembe Mutombo, Philadelphia Paul Pierce, Boston Steve Nash, Dallas
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Canada:</div><div class="quote_post">none of these cats would have been taken over Carter two years ago ! Injuries interfered the last couple of seasons .. and now he's healthy .. he's on his way to earn his " Usual " seat over all of these guys</div> Vince has and always will be just a scorer and a great dunker...the players I mentioned do alot more in games than Vince ever did. You are crazy if you think KG,duncan,shaq,webber,kidd would not of been taken over carter two years ago... and DAMN..I can't believe I forgot AI on my list.Who was clearly better as well.You truely are a homer if you believe what you wrote there in your quote.
Usual place ahead of those guys? I would like to roast ya myself, but I feel my mates burned ya enough already, any more and you would need medical treatment.
im with allnet vc is the most overrated player ever to come out of UNC (or any college for that matter) but look at him. all he can do is dunk! whoopde dooda id rather take that whole list 'o guys over vc-AND AI-U GOTTA HAVE THE ANSWER BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd also take that whole list over VC. VC is playing good ball this year, but he isn't as talented or doesn't have as much potential as guys like Kobe, Tmac, KG, Dirk, JO, etc. If you asked any of the teams that allnet's list of players were on if they would take VC over them, then they would definetely say no, so I guess you are right, because the Raps couldn't trade VC for any of them.
Jordan, a fellow UNC alum, said he'd rather have Kobe than Carter. No disrepect to Carter, he's a good player, but he's on his way to being another Dominique Wilkins. I'll take players listed above over VC and i'll throw out another name probably a lot of people will disagree with but it's my opinion. I'd rather have Caron Butler than Vince.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting sportsrock37:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd also take that whole list over VC. VC is playing good ball this year, but he isn't as talented or doesn't have as much potential as guys like Kobe, Tmac, KG, Dirk, JO, etc. If you asked any of the teams that allnet's list of players were on if they would take VC over them, then they would definetely say no, so I guess you are right, because the Raps couldn't trade VC for any of them.</div> You'd take TMac over Carter? WHo's winnin more games? Who took their team out of the 1st round of the playoffs? Who has more clutch? Its easy to say Tmac is better, obviously, he looks intimidating and has flashier uniform. TMac rose in popularity 3 years ago, now hes gettin criticized and may soon get injured too. U underrate Carter but the first 3 years of his time in the nba he rose to all star status, then he got injured and criticized. Many players are good then get injured for a while, and get criticized. Carter is proving himself this year. Watch his games, he's even better than when hes a rookie, his fade jump shot is devastating. As for Kobe, he would be nothing without Shaq. Obvioiusly he'll get confident and good if Shaq gets the ball back for him. U remember Penny Hardaway and Shaq on Magic? Hardaway said hes better and they didnt need Shaq, Shaq left, then Penny regretted and no finals for Penny ever again. It'd be over for Kobe had Shaq not been there. Carter would probably win more games than if Kobe was with the Raptors in replace
I ain't gonna to throw my self in an endless thread .. Time will prove who's right and who's wrong .. I'm coming back to this thread by the end of June !
There are at least 23 players I would take ahead of Vince Carter. Here's a breakdown by position. Centers -------- Shaq O'Neal Tim Duncan Yao Ming Jermaine O'neal Eddy Curry Power Forwards -------- Kevin Garnett Dirk Nowitzki Amare Stoudamire Ben Wallace Chris Webber Small Forwards -------- Ron Artest LeBron James Shawn Marion Rasheed Wallace Shooting Guards -------- Kobe Bryant Paul Pierce Allen Iverson Tracy McGrady Manu Ginobilli Point Guards -------- Jason Kidd Stephon Marbury Steve Francis Gilbert Arenas
