Trade Would you trade CJ... The Super Duper Trade Thread!

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Would you trade CJ for the Lakers' #2 pick.

  1. No--keep on the current course

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  2. Yes--gotta try for a superstar

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Speculation seems to be that the Lakers will likely try to land an established player rather than draft an unknown. I'm sure the #2 pick in a 2-player draft has more value than the second-best player on a 5-seed, but CJ certainly fits Dame's timeline better than Brandon Ingram does.

    Of course I know it's not happening, but that's not relevant to the hypothetical. If it were a straight-up deal, would you make that trade?
     
    PtldPlatypus, May 18, 2016
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    no.

    You have a 20 PPG scorer who plays two positions and is a proven 3point threat and who can create his own shot.

    There's no guarantee at all that a draft pick will ever be as good.
     
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    Not unless I can pick which draft its the 2nd pick from ;)
     
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    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

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    I voted No. The draft is a crapshoot, even at the top. CJ's good enough for me.
     
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    Is Crabbe good enough for the 2 position in the starting lineup? If yes it might be a tempting gamble. Ingram is the kind SF the Blazers need. It's not happening though.
     
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    Somebody will end up being better than CJ.....I just don't know which one.
    I was impressed with Ingram, but my guess he will go #1.
    Simmons and Brown might end being great, but I can't say for certain until they have a consistent jump shot.
    Chris Dunn will be good, but I like our current PG.
    I saw Buddy Hield in person destroy my Ducks, but he is not close to being as good as CJ.
    Murray.....no
    Poeltl....no way
    Bender....I have no idea
     
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  7. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    FUCK no. Regardless of how it impacts our team, CJ's WAY too good a guy to saddle with Puce and Bile stains.
     
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    I don't see why they'd do it. They have very few good young players, but two of them are tweener scoring guards - Russell and Clarkson.
     
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    If the goal is to have Lillard eventually sign with the Lakers when his contract is up then you have to make the trade.
     
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    I doubt we could pick a player with 2015-16 CJ as a ceiling, let alone what Cj's actual ceiling might be. No thank you.
     
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    I was wondering last night if New Orleans and Philly would trade Anthony Davis for the #1 and Okafor. Almost makes sense. (Then Philly throws a max contract at Mike Conley.)
     
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    a big hell no. Trade a proven for an unproven.. No thanks....
     
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    Simmons man... that guy looked like LeBron before he lost interest. Still can't understand why people are talking up Ingram all that much.

    I said yes. "No" if Simmons goes 1 and only Ingram is available.
     
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    No.

    Simmons is going to be a millennial version of Carmello Anthony mixed with Rudy Gay.
     
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    In what way? Both of those guys are scorers. Simmons has better handles and can create. He's got PG skills with PF size.
     
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    I don't think many GM's have kept their job after trading an proven NBA player for a pick. Unless they were going into full rebuild mode...
     
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    Agree with this. The team that likely might have done it would have been PHI if they dropped to 2 or 3.
     
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    In response to the poll question, I would answer "no". But I think BGD touches on an interesting aspect: Crabbe. We have a guy who may fit better alongside Damian, or at least not be a major downgrade. At least, it's been something that people here have questioned. What I think makes this more interesting is the team's future payroll - CJ is going to get MAX. But Crabbe will probably get around $10m/year, and the draftee will be on a rookie contract. Given the financial implications, is it possible that the trade could net us:

    Crabbe giving us 80% of CJ's production at 40% the cost
    Potential Star in Ingram/Simmons
    Cap Space to sign another major player

    Again, given the successful season we just had, it's not something we can afford to gamble on. But as a hypothetical it's interesting.
     
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    Why do we keep posting threads like this? Seriously, when I get a paper cut..... you gunna poor lemon juice on it for me?
     
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    More of a mindset/motivation type thing. Probably mentally weak.
     
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