Since the turn of the century 26 PLAYERS have been elected to the HOF. Do you agree or disagree???????? 2000 = Carlton Fisk & Tony Perez 2001 = Kirby Puckett, Dave Winfield & Bill Mazeroski (V.C.) 2002 = Ozzie Smith 2003 = Gary Carter & Eddie Murray 2004 = Paul Molitor & Dennis Eckersley 2005 = Ryne Sandberg & Wade Boggs 2006 = Bruce Sutter 2007 = Cal Ripkin & Tony Gwynn 2008 = Rich Gossage 2009 = Rickey Henderson & Jim Rice 2010 = Andre Dawson 2011 = Bert Blyleven & Roberto Alomar 2012 = Barry Larkin & Ron Santo (V.C.) 2013 = No one 2014 = Frank Thomas, Tom Glavine & Greg Maddox I disagree on Perez, Puckett, Maz, Gossage, Rice, Larkin & Santo. And Sutter, I over looked him earlier.
2000 = Carlton Fisk & Tony Perez-YES TWICE 2001 = Kirby Puckett,(NOT NO-HELL NO) Dave Winfield & Bill Mazeroski (V.C.) (NO and NO-Maz gave us one great World Series Moment, that's it) 2002 = Ozzie Smith-YES 2003 = Gary Carter & Eddie Murray-YES and YES 2004 = Paul Molitor & Dennis Eckersley-YES TO BOTH 2005 = Ryne Sandberg & Wade Boggs-YOU BET YES TWICE 2006 = Bruce Sutter-NOPE 2007 = Cal Ripkin & Tony Gwynn-YES BIG TIME 2008 = Rich Gossage-CLOSE CALL, NO-OR MAYBE, and YES. Goose is hard to say NO to, especially after watching him throw as hard, and dominate so much, MAYBE YES, MAYBE NO????? 2009 = Rickey Henderson & Jim Rice-YES and NO, WELL MAYBE YES 2 RICE? CLOSE CALL ON RICE..but NO TO RICE????/ 2010 = Andre Dawson-UGH, YES BUT- I HATE THIS FUCKER, WORST AUTOGRAPHER AT A SHOW I'VE EVER RAN INTO, I MEAN BIG ASSHOLE-BUT HE WAS A DAMN GOOD PLAYER, SO YES.. 2011 = Bert Blyleven & Roberto Alomar-NO, and YES. 2012 = Barry Larkin & Ron Santo (V.C.) YES TO BOTH, GREAT PLAYERS, BEST IN THEIR TIME, OR 2ND BEST. 2013 = No one-HARD CALL, SOME GUYS WERE BORDERLINE, SOME I'D LIKE TO OF SEEN, BUT STILL NONE WERE WORTHY THIS YEAR. 2014 = Frank Thomas, Tom Glavine & Greg Maddox-YES TO ALL HANDS UP. Now I know why I would NOT want to have a HOF Vote..! No to Maz, Rice, Puckett, BlyLeven, Rice, Sutter, Winfield, close call on Perez, Santo, Goose. Hands up YES to Larkin....great player, greater guy...great autograph dude... I don't determine eligibility on Autographer Attitudes, tho' it give very clear insight into the Man behind the Uniforms......
2000 = Carlton Fisk & Tony Perez - no, yes 2001 = Kirby Puckett, Dave Winfield & Bill Mazeroski (V.C.) - yes yes NO 2002 = Ozzie Smith - yes 2003 = Gary Carter & Eddie Murray - yes yes 2004 = Paul Molitor & Dennis Eckersley - yes, nnnn...ugh 2005 = Ryne Sandberg & Wade Boggs - yes yes 2006 = Bruce Sutter- no 2007 = Cal Ripkin & Tony Gwynn - yes yes 2008 = Rich Gossage - yes 2009 = Rickey Henderson & Jim Rice - yes and I wonder if Rice would've made it if they gave Guidry the MVP in 1978 instead of Rice, ahem...Guidry also pitched well and WON the famous '78 playoff game vs Rice's Redsox 2010 = Andre Dawson - no 2011 = Bert Blyleven & Roberto Alomar - no yes 2012 = Barry Larkin & Ron Santo (V.C.) - I guess so and YES 2013 = No one 2014 = Frank Thomas, Tom Glavine & Greg Maddox - yes yes yes
IMO Winfield is in because of his 3000 hits. That's pretty much an automatic. I'm puzzled about the relief pitchers. Yes on Gossage & no on Sutter? Honestly don't think either one should be in there. And Sutter winning the CYA in 1979 was a Joke.
Yeah your probably right here Rick....Winfield did earn his way...3,000 hits, I have no qualm with 3,000 hits as a guidline to a HOF consideration. I saw both Sutter, and Gossage, quite frequently in Chavez Ravine in both's day. Honestly, I was never ever impressed with Sutter. Seems he was always having control problems, only when I saw him in L.A. Maybe I jinxed him as the White Rat Herzog loved Sutter, and Gossage, each time I saw him both as a Yankee, and as a Padre-moreso, Goose was always just fireball, glove smack explosive and dominating, whenever I saw him. A great seat field level, only 7 rows from the field right at first base, we had a great view of his smoke, Senor Smoke....I always thought, I could hit off of Sutter, (of course I was quit a bit younger then), and always thought HELL NO, I would NOT want to face the Goose, or Ryan, Koufax, Marichal, Bob Gibson, Sudden Sam when he was still an Indian..... and alot of others, fastball hurlers that blew afterburners......... Add MO to that list right up top if you please....
My problem with Sutter & Gossage in there with around only 300 saves is how do you now justify keeping out guys like Lee with almost 500 saves, & Franco & Wagner with well over 400 saves. Especially Wagner (422 saves) with a 2.31 ERA & a 0.998 whip.
Well, you do indeed have a very valid point there, why do you think Lee Smith isn't in there? Or both Franco or Wagner....Hmmm, you got me on this one. I know this is why I would never get a HOF voter credential....LOL.... You are right tho' I have to eat my words, and rescind my comment about Goose, no doubt, yet someone saw something in him, I'm not sure what, maybe the dominance overwhelmed them,but shit so did Lee, John and Billy tooo. Those guys were great in their era's.......all of them. Yes, even Sutter...just not when I saw him, I think he may of been out on the Tinsel Town with a babe under each arm all night, then woke up hungover and had to go to the park late.......I'm not sure, something went afoul here, when he was in L.A.
