Zach Collins is ready

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  1. Mediocre Man

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    Today's NBA is won with two way guards
     
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    does two way mean offense and defense?

    Not sure I'd say that Curry is a 2 way guard, or Irvin.

    Todays NBA is won by having talent at all 5 positions.

    A lot of the best players in the league (LeBron, Durant, Leonard) aren't two way guards.
     
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    They arent two way bigs either.

    Wings is probably more accurate.
     
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    Hey, he's Chuck Fuckin' Norris compared to Mild LeoTARD; just think of how much of a bad ass Zach will be in years to come...:smiley-yay:
     
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    Um, no. Two-way SGs and SFs have always dominated the league, while two-way PFs have rarely led a team to the Finals.
     
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    That should DEFINITELY "AND" on the trading:wink:
     
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    That’s because the latter is more rare, hence why they’re also more valuable.

    Make a list of both. Let’s see which way that swing tips.
     
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    That I would agree with. This team could win, if they had a wing that wasn't inconsistent and could create for himself (and defend).
     
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    Without researching too deeply, I'd say Duncan would argue that point.
     
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    No he wouldn't. He'd realize that I wrote "two-way PFs rarely led a team to the Finals", and know that "rarely" doesn't mean "never". He'd know that he was one of the rare two-way PFs to do so.
     
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    Karl Malone and Shawn Kemp got to the finals, too.
     
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    Meyers and Collins are the Blazers version of Don Jr and Eric Trump.
     
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    This. Too bad there are so few of them.

    There are 6 good teams and 24 others. One very good SF and we move up quite a bit in the hierarchy. Of course you can say that about 20 other teams.
     
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    You go to hell.
     
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    It would be huge
     
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    And lost to a two way guard
     
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    Yes, rarely. Any others?
     
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    Well sure, if you leave out the bulk of the past 20 years, it rarely happens. Well, except for the other guys mentioned like Malone, Kemp, Grant, and McHale, which accounts for much of the preceding 20 years.

    And no one even mentioned that KG scrub...
     
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    Was it Malone or Stockton? Kemp or Payton? McHale or Bird? Grant or Pippen? KG or Pierce?

    Duncan, James....yes, but even then Parker, Ginobili, Wade, Irving all played HUGE roles
     
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    So it sounds like you're saying they need talent at all 5 spots
     
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