You're mixing up Vince with Rip Hamilton. Working off the ball the majority of the time is just not his game.
Did you just compare the Redeem team to a regular NBA team? My comment is just based on the comments made by some of these players. Lebron and kobe were upset Kidd was never traded to their team. If Kidd was getting paid less and the Lakers and the Cavs could have gotten him, dont you think they would have?
No I am not. Rip is the extreme of what I am saying. I am up court without the ball and getting open. Not standing on a wing and waiting for the ball so you can get an iso.
Not at all. I'm saying that even though all these players are talking about how they want to play with a great natural PG, in Kidd, when they actually did have him on their team...they didn't use him much at all. Think about it.
I'm fine if that's the way you see it but the only thing that combats your argument is just how well VC played after the all star break doing the very thing I said we'd ask him to be doing this year. There will be times where Harris and Dooling are setting up VC in his sweet spot but honestly that kinda off the ball movement and ditching/posting his defender is as much work if not more than giving Vince the ball and asking him to make the right play. We're going to be counting on him for heavy minutes as is so there is a balancing act. When you have stars like a LeBron, JJ, VC, Wade, Kobe, etc. they need to be the decision makers. It's just the way the league has shifted, especially as the rules allow players with their versatility the upper hand on the offensive end. VC and Devin's ability to create their own shots and get into the lane are pretty much what our offense is going to depend/thrive on. I personally want the ball in their hands at all times. As far as your Bibby reference, just look back to the series against the Celtics. They could not get the ball in JJ's hands fast enough because Bibby is slowly becoming Mike James from Toronto a few seasons ago. That's all in all not an entirely bad thing as JJ and Josh are the setup men and with Al down low, all Mike really has to do is hit open shots and bring the ball up. He's not a setup man anymore, he's a draw and kick player that's slowly becoming a spot up shooter. Would every team like CP3, Deron, Steve? Sure, but getting back to the topic at hand we're not gonna find a guy like that at this time of year, nor do we have the pieces to acquire one. Netted's Will Conroy idea isn't too shabby. He'd save us the extra cash we'd have to pay a more experienced guy like Andre Barrett and Will wouldn't kill us if we needed fill in duty. I still personally like the Livingston idea, getting him back and NBA ready this season to reap the benefits the next but admittedly that's a longshot. He does want a nice secure contract, you can't blame him there, and it's hard to imagine Kiki and Rod taking that gamble.
As much as I like the idea of bringing in livingston, we really don't need him. We just traded for dooling's new contact. Dooling does play the 2 but looking at our roster many guys like Hayes, simmons are interchangeable at the 2/3 sports. Resigning DA is the best option, he brings vet leadership, he knows the system and he gets one more year being a player-coach.
