The hit squads are starting

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  1. The Return of the Raider

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    Everyone I know looks fatter in photographs. In that photo, the teenager is wearing shirts that are tight, not loose.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    Good point, though I was talking about Mrs. Palin.
     
  3. Real

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    I didn't know you skipped the last two elections.

    Why do you think Democrats are calling for Barack to fight back? Because of how their candidates got manipulated and out maneuvered two times in a row.

    Why did Barack select someone like Joe Biden who isn't afraid to fight back? Maybe part of it is the experience factor, the other part of it the fact that he will fight back against the Republican attack machine.
     
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    Maybe you think it was juvenile, but it worked, and it was brilliant strategy IMO.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if this was true. It could go either way if they prove it to be correct, though. If she plays her cards right, it could have her gaining a lot of respect from women and the pro-life crowd.
     
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    If you want real hit pieces, check out the front page of the Huffington Post.

    They're not talking about Barack Obama's speech, and they're not talking about Joe Biden. They're not even talking about John McCain. They're talking about Sarah Palin, because they're scared.
     
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    This probably scares you if anything:
    Source: Commentary magazine

    It is a retort to an article, and I rather like it.
     
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    And so is Cindy McCain...
    [video=youtube;2zP8uFPWxaA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zP8uFPWxaA[/video]

    :confused:
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    Sarah Palin reminds me of Afghanistan. The more you study her, the fewer targets of strategic value there are to attack.
     
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    Maybe her name should be on top of the ticket.
     
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    I imagine if she were a Democrat at the top of the ticket, people wouldn't be making the worst kinds of accusations against her and her daughter, and she'd be a rock star media darling.

    As I see it, there's two things that might happen:
    1) She falls on her face when confronted with questions about economic and foreign policy issues.
    2) She holds her own.

    Some people suggest #1 is likely to happen, but they don't know anything about her - clearly from the nature of the attacks against her.

    If #2 happens, Obama's chances are going to be seriously hurt. From what I've seen and read about her, this is a likely scenario.
     
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    I don't know if McCain will hold his own when drilled on why she is even on the ticket. Look at Cindy fumbling around like a fool (first time I recall seeing her like that).
     
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  13. Denny Crane

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    Go watch or read the transcript of Meet the Press from this morning and get back to me.
     
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    Let me see him get through October and then I'll get back to you.
     
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    I just googled for but could not find any smear or hit piece against Biden. Why is that?
     
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    Good for him, I don't want any hit pieces out there.
     
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    http://www.courant.com/news/politics/ats-ap-cvn-biden-vietnamaug31,0,2934547.story

    Biden received 5 deferments before being declared medically ineligible for Vietnam

    <dl class="byline">By RANDALL CHASE |Associated Press Writer<dd>1:32 PM EDT, August 31, 2008</dd></dl> DOVER, Del. (AP) _ Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden received five student draft deferments during the Vietnam War, the same number of deferments received by Vice President Dick Cheney, and later was disqualified from service because of asthma as a teenager.

    Officials with Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's campaign released Biden's Selective Service records at the request of The Associated Press. Less detailed records were available from a National Archives facility in Philadelphia.

    According to the documents, Biden, 65, received several deferments while he was an undergraduate at the University of Delaware and later as a law student at Syracuse University. A month after undergoing a physical exam in April 1968, Biden received a Selective Service classification of 1-Y, meaning he was available for service only in the event of national emergency.

    "As a result of a physical exam on April 5, 1968, Joe Biden was classified 1-Y and disqualified from service because of asthma as a teenager," said David Wade, a campaign spokesman.

    In "Promises to Keep," a memoir that was published last year and became an instant best-seller after he was tapped as Obama's running mate, Biden never mentions his asthma, recounting an active childhood, work as a lifeguard and football exploits in high school.

    The Obama campaign pointed to media interviews from 1987, when Biden was making his first bid for the presidency, that mention his asthma.

    Military service and questions about which presidential ticket would be stronger on national security are intertwined in the presidential race. Republican John McCain, a former Navy pilot who spent 5½ years in a Vietnamese prison, has argued that he has stronger background to be commander in chief. Democratic nominee Barack Obama counters that McCain would continue a wrong-headed foreign policy from the Bush administration.

    Biden has had extensive experience with national security issues in the Senate. McCain's running mate, Sarah Palin, has been Alaska governor for two years and before that was a small-town mayor.

    Biden's five student deferments equal the number given to Vice President Dick Cheney, who has been quoted as saying he had "other priorities" than military service in the 1960s.

    According to records AP obtained from the National Archives, Biden registered Feb. 15, 1961, with the Selective Service, when he was an 18-year-old student at Archmere Academy in Wilmington. The archives documents do not include any information about his classification or physical exam.

    Documents provided by the Obama campaign indicate Biden received a classification questionnaire in October 1963, when he was enrolled at the University of Delaware, and received his first 2-S student deferment a month later. Additional deferments were granted in roughly 12-month intervals, the last coming in January 1968, shortly before he graduated from law school at Syracuse University.

    Then in April 1968, when he was 25, Biden was disqualified from service due to asthma.
     
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    The second comeback of choice: turn anything into a partisan attack. Nothing in my post calls out one party over another--or even necessarily refers to politics. Nice going, though.
     
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    If Palin becomes President, what is her husband called? The First Man? The First Gentleman? Anybody know?
     
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    He's the "First Dude" in Alaska.
     

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