Who do you guys think is the most overrated player in the NBA? Personally I think Iverson at this point is pretty overrated. Another guy is Tracy McGrady, some people use to compare him to Kobe, not a fair comparison by any means, but McGrady can't even get out of the first round with a talented team.
I would agree with Iverson, but I don't hear people claiming Tmac is the best or 2nd best player in the world like Lebron or Kobe. If you actually look at the teams the Rockets have lost to in the first round, most of the series went to 7 games, and were against talented teams that either went far, or played well against other talented teams. 2007-08: Rockets without Yao lose in 6 games to the Jazz, Jazz lose to the Lakers in 6 in a tough series, Lakers lose in the Finals. 2006-07: Rockets lose in 7 games to the Jazz, Jazz lose to eventual Champs the Spurs in Western Conference Finals. 2004-05: Rockets lose in 7 games to the Mavs, Mavs lose to the Suns in 6 (before Amare messed up his knee) 2003-04: Rockets lose in 5 games to the Lakers, Yao Ming's second year with a hard matchup against Shaq, Malone, Payton and Kobe. Who went and lost in the Finals.
And people probably would have argued, if Tmac had Shaq in his prime and Phil Jackson as coach that Tmac would have had 3 rings as well.
I'm moreso speaking as individual players. It was blasphemy then to compare him to Kobe, and its blasphemy now. Kobe is, and will always be the better player.
nah the comparison wasn't really far off at all then. kobe has definitely played at a higher level than tmac the last 4 years though and the comparison is over.
Looks around.. TAYSHAUN PRINCE! The guy needs to be more agrassive on the offensive side. I hate it when he pass's up a wide open shot.
How is Iverson overrated? Hes in his 30s and still plays better than most 20 year olds. I can think of MAYBE 8 players in the whole league who i would put above Iverson. Calling a HOF player overrated is pretty dumb IMO.
I think when people compare him to Kobe, they're doing it mainly by skillset. And in that aspect, it's a pretty fair comparison. Each of their games is somewhat similar. However, in terms of winning, Kobe is FAR ahead of TMac in that category. As for my most overrated, I think I'll have to go with Dirk. For a so-called "franchise player", he really doesn't do anything eye-popping. He's never won the NBA title, only been there once for that matter, and had a TOTAL meltdown over the last four games of that series. I'm also one of those people that thinks he has a tendency to choke in the clutch, even though I know that's going to be argued. Aside from that, I don't even know if he's the best player on that team anymore. Josh Howard has just as much offensive ability and is a much better defensive player than Dirk can ever be. He just also happens to be a nutcase, which hasn't helped his cause as of recent. As for AI...I understand where people come from with calling him overrated. He's never won an NBA title, his defense is pretty shoddy (getting steals is different than actually playing defense), and until recently, he was most definitely what I would call a volume scorer as opposed to an efficient one. Obviously what I mean by that is that he got his 30+ppg or so by jacking up a ton of bad, ill-advised shots as opposed to scoring efficiently. I'll give him some credit though, since he's been in Denver, his FG% has gone up, but I can't really look past his what, 42% career FG%? Kinda difficult to do that. And by the way, players that are better than Iverson: Kobe, KG, Paul Pierce, LeBron, Nash, Billups, Duncan, 'Melo, Wade, Yao (if healthy), Dwight Howard, Amare, Chris Paul, Tony Parker, Manu...you get the idea. There's this thing called bias, you clearly have A LOT of it if you still think AI is a top 10 player in the league.
I agree. AI is holding up as well as any player of his generation and better than most. Dirk's gotta be up there on the overrated list.
Ok, I have to take issue with this. Name the NBA team that has eliminated McGrady from the playoffs and had lesser talent. Since he's been a Rockets, he was eliminated in 2005 by the Dallas Mavericks in 7 games, and by the Utah Jazz in 2007 and 2008. All 3 teams were considered more talented than the Rockets. In particular, last year the Rockets were without Yao and without Rafer Alston for 2 1/2 games. And by no means am I going to suggest that McGrady is on the same level as Kobe right now. But Kobe has not advanced past the first round in the playoffs in any year that his team did not have a significant surplus in talent over the opponent. I don't believe McGrady has ever had anything like the talent Kobe had last year or in previous years with Shaq around him. I do agree with your take on Iverson, though. For those wondering how Iverson could be considered overrated -- just consider this. Did the Nuggets improve at all after trading Andre Miller for Iverson, straight up? No. And in fact, the team is declining since that move, and they will likely be out of the playoffs altogether this season. Iverson is viewed as a superstar by many fans, but if he's not even able to an clear improvement over Andre Miller on the Nuggets I don't see how that view can be justified.
The Nuggets won 50 games last season and 45 the season before. They did not decline after the AI trade. There was a period of adjustment for the Nuggets after the trade because of Melo and JR getting suspended and Karl overplaying Boykins. Once Boykins was removed from the team by the front office, the Nuggets played much better. They went 10-1 in the regular season in April 2007. The Nuggets have one major flaw and his name is George Karl.
No, they traded him for a $10 Million TE. I'm not in the mood to go on another Camby rant, but trading Camby does not hurt the Nuggets in way, shape or form.
rocketeer and I agree on basically nothing. If I find that I'm agreeing with him, I stop and reconsider my position because it means I'm probably wrong.
