Oh no, agreeement reached. McCain just lost his ace in the hole

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  1. PapaG

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    Oh, I understand it, but what I don't understand is Harry Reid, Barney Frank, and Chris Dodd screaming that the GOP is playing politics when they are sitting on their own passable bill that would seemingly end this "crisis". THEY are in power, so while McCain's politics made a debate a mystery, the Dems, according to their own words, are literally extending an economic crisis. It's stupid, transparent, and tells me they don't know what they are doing.
     
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    Oh I think they know what they are doing (these people are intelligent and savy) . . . they are putting politics in front of the country. It's sick.

    It's sick we have to bail fortune 500 companies out. It's sick that CEO make out with millions. It's sick that most of us are powerless to do anything but bitch about it to firends and on the internet. It's sick that we have good reason not to believe anything any politican says during election time. And for me, it's sick that McCain picked a gimmick VP in an attempt to win an election

    Somehow you see the democrats as the true bad guys in all this, when I see republicans and democrats all making choices based on getting their party into the big seat.

    I thought I liked this time of year (election time) . . . but for some reason I'm pissed a lot during election time, so maybe I don't like election time . . . especially with a crisis on hand . . . if there really is a crisis.
     
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    Well, they are the party in power, and they control the purse strings and the vote. So clearly a bill not being passed is solely their fault right now.
     
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    I agree with this 100%. There is so much animosity and tension. Posters here using ad hominem attacks, my neighbor's McCain sign being ripped to shreds two nights ago, the media reporting that the only way Obama will lose is because white people are racists...

    Seriously, I've never been a bumper sticker person or a yard sign person, but if I were, I sure the hell wouldn't put one up now. My neighbors are Mormon as well, and things like that don't typically happen here in T-town.
     
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    Well let's take it out a step. There was talk that if no agreement by today, the stock market would crash, hasn't happened.

    So if I'm a democrat senator and I feel that passing the bill without republicans on board will hurt Obama become president (which it will) and I think Obama is the best thing for the nation, and this country could not survive four more years of McBush, then i am doing my country a favor by making sure a bill does not pass unless it is bi-partisian.

    So if it is the dems fault they are not passing a partisian bill . . . well they are in fact helping the country in the long run becuase this will hellp put the right person in the white house.
     
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    Did you hear about a life size cut out of Obama being hung at a local college?

    Does it get any uglier than that . . . don't answer that, let's wait till tomorrow because it probably does.
     
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    So basically the Dems know that the US isn't ready for socialism at this level, so they will use their bully pulpit in the media to try and shame the GOP to voting for something that they don't believe in and that their own voters will punish them for. Not. Going. To. Happen.

    As for "the right person in the White House", that is strictly an opinion, although part of me does want to see Obama win just so we can all be rich, our enemies can have some sense talked into them, and the world will all love us again.

    Leaders lead. If this bill is the solution, Obama should be out in front casting the first vote.
     
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    I need more info and some arrests before rulling out this as a political stunt by some misguided Obama supporter to further stoke racial flames. That's how cynical I have become about all of this.
     
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    I never heard one thing about McCain going to DC that night. Everything I heard was that he was going to DC in the morning. If Letterman is butthurt because McCain would rather talk to actual newscasters, that's his problem.
     
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    Go to 6:50 in the very video I quoted, since you obviously haven't watched it. (You might actually understand my point even more if you just watched the whole thing.)

    I'll paste it again to make it easy for you:

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    This is getting boring. I point out how this isn't about Letterman, but about McCain's credibility. Response: Letterman is a whiner. I point out again how that isn't the point. Response: Letterman is butthurt. Around and around we go.

    Or we used to. I'm done with this.
     
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    I read McCain decided it wasn't a good idea to go on a clown show on TV when the nation is going through this serious stuff.
     
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    Regarding McCain in DC: There's this perception among some that it is Bush and the Democrats, and the House GOP led by John McCain revolting against the President.

    While inaccurate, is that perception really a bad thing? Reinforces McCain's maverick image, plus it looks like he's going against an unpopular President.
     
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    Nice avatar! As a former Goldman employee, those two used to scare the crap out of me.
     

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