Lakers need toughness

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  1. DennisRodman

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    Link?

    I would really like to see you calculate that.

    I seriously don't think Kobe's true shooting percentage was 50.5% at least. As well I would bet that Gasol and Odom were averaging similar amounts or more FTs to Kobe despite Kobe taking considerably more FGAs.
     
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    First, you don't just disregard someone who's continues to wane at a certain position. It is obvious he couldn't take the responsibility, even when Kobe played well he continued his painful descent so let's interrupt that correlation you're trying to make.

    Also, relax there man, 53 True Shooting percentage is the average, so 50.5 TS% is still a bit below the "average". However let's take into account some other points:

    You need to stop throwing around FG% like it is the end all. Pau gets assisted on a fairly large amount of his shots so he can't just take a quality shot whenever he wants to. Kobe's production is more secure which is why he falls in love with himself. If Gasol were to have better stats in this particular series, it would be due to Kobe facilitating the offense better or due to better looks and such.

    The guy is a somewhat weak power forward, he's going to struggle against bigger bodies.
     
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    You brought up TS%, and you said Kobe shot at least 50.5%. I said I don't believe you, and are you going to either calculate it or give a link for Kobe's Finals TS%?

    I don't think his TS% was better than Gasol's or Odom's, and that he averaged less FT/FGA than them.
     
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    It isn't just about TS%... It's not about one stat.

    You calculate TS% by multiplying FTs by .44, then add that to total FGs Attempted. Multiply total points scored by 50, the divide by the FGs attempted + .44Fts. It is superior to Fg%, so it is a nice little thing for you to remember in the future.

    Yeah their TS% was higher, so what? You never know what you'll get out of Odom; Pau was at his limits.
     
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    lol, well I knew what TS was, I just was wondering if you were going to backup your claim that:
     
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    Your previous post makes no sense because if you knew what TS% is, then you could easily prove if I could "back-up" my claim. :)

    154 points times 50 = 7700.

    FGs attempted + .44FTs = 152.56

    TS% = 50.47194546%

    kthnx. :[
     
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    lol, I just didn't feel like getting the stats and calculating it. Especially when I wasn't making the claim, and lol you fell short! :P
     
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    I accept your apology, don't worry man. :]
     
  9. DennisRodman

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    lol, I would only apologize if I was wrong in the first place. I'm not expecting one from you though. :P
     
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    So Pau plays solid defense on KG (a high post player) and that makes him a dominant center that won't feel the effects of being out of position? There really is nothing to discuss.
     
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    Lol, a bit of exaggeration here, a bit there, somehow you think I state Gasol is a dominant center. There is nothing to discuss.

    No hard feelings, :cheers:
     
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    This part of the article pissed me off.

    And, curiously, he [Kobe] asked, "You guys seen L.O.?"

    That would be Odom, who apparently hasn't been around as often lately after being practically invisible in the NBA Finals box scores. Jackson's biggest task will be to make Odom feel like an essential part of the family, even with a possible demotion and trade rumors looming.


    Why isn't Odom taking part in more team activities as one of the captains of this team? The only offseason news I heard about him is he rescheduled his annual Poker tournament. Shouldn't he be developing his right hand? improving his defensive technique to defend small forwards? and develop a back to the basket post game to take advantage of his size?
     
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    Well in defense of Odom, besides our three Olympians, Andrew Bynum and Luke Walton's recovery, I haven't really heard much about anyone this offseason.
     
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    There's been articles on Ariza, Sasha, Farmar, and Mihm working hard on their games this offseason.
     
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    Really? I must have missed them then :dunno:

    btw Shape when's media day. The Hornets already had theirs.
     
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    Ariza - Improved his 3 point shooting
    Sasha - Locked himself in the gym to work on defense and his shooting
    Farmar - Continues to work on his strength and conditioning
    Mihm - Walton said he's looking great in practice
     
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    What about Vladrad :(
     
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    He hosted a basketball camp.
     
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    lol

    That doesn't count. And Lamar is probably working on promoting the artists on his label!

    Has Vladrad worked on his game at all or is he just sitting around doing nothing? Brian Cook hosted basketball camps as well, and he is a fat slug.

    Btw, Farmar should take Bynum to do yoga.
     
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    I know it doesn't count. I doubt Radman has done much this offseason to improve his game. If our frontcourt players can remain healthy Radman won't have any impact on this team.

    I always felt the Lakers should keep him on the court when his 3 point shot is falling, but if he's off then you keep him on the bench.
     

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