Palin: Obama "palling around with terrorists"

I think if Obama continues to rise and McCain drops, you'll hear his middle name referred to as much as possible.

You'll hear his religion questioned. Basically they'll say he's a Muslim. That shouldn't make a difference and even if he was, that shouldn't matter, but for some reason a lot of people are stupid and think that does matter.

You'll hear things like he's dangerous and he's not one of you or subtle attacks about the fact that he's black.

This won't come from McCain himself and I do kind of think he doesn't like this kind of politics, but the talking heads will do their best.

 

I think Obama can just try to play that off as the McCain campaign trying to play off hate, and shortchanging the intelligence of the American people. Then Obama can chime in something like, "It is nice to know that we've grown so much as a nation...." regarding electing someone with the name Hussein.

McCain's done though. Obama won the debate much more convincingly according to the flash polls I've seen. Obama has looked like a lot safer choice in both debates so far.

 

So Ayers was a terrorist when Obama was a child...well McVeigh was a terrorist when I was a child, doesn't change the fact that he's a terrorist and should hold no position of authority and furthermore should have no association whatsoever with someone running to be President. I sound like a religious fanatic? Or are you just using that as a comparison? Either way, I'm pro-choice so I wouldn't call myself a religious fanatic, and as far as fantacism in general I would have to disagree entirely with that. I'm informed and educated about Mr. Obama and see him being President in such shaky times as probably the worst thing that could happen to the U.S. That doesn't make me a fanatic.

The Bushes "palled" around with the Bin Ladens before 9/11, as did many other people of influence in our country. That comparison is totally unapplicable, sorry, nice try.

As for Maddeline Albright, Kim Jung Il is a lunatic dictator, not a terrorist. I don't see how that has any bearing on this conversation.

If you do not have a job and cannot afford health care, it is not the governments responsibility to provide it. I currently do not have any health insurance to speak of even though I am employed, and have blown meniscus in both of my knees and need surgery, they cause me a great deal of pain on a daily basis, but I'm not crying for big brother to take care of it. It is my responsibility.

 

Yes you do sound like a fanatic. I've probably seen some infamous criminals in my time and I would have no clue who they are since I can't watch the news 24/7. I don't know my acquaintances THAT well either.

 

The guy is a professor at University of Chicago for goodness sake. The guy is deeply involved in community service. What makes Ayers a bad guy again? Isn't there something that Jesus taught about forgiveness. Society seems to have...Sarah Palin has not...since she apparently knows better than everyone else. What do you think Obama is doing? Help fundraise a community project with Ayers....or planning an attack on the United States in those meetings?

 

Comparison.

It might have been before 9/11, but you seem to conveniently forget that Osama bin Laden, as well as relatives, were involved in terrorism way before 2001.

So it's alright to "pal around" with dictators? Because obviously, they are so much more innocent of horrid acts toward other people, right?

That's your view. In my view, if a country "can't" save the lives of it's own citizens because old lady Beth just got shot but doesn't have the money to pay the hospital, that country is inhumane to me. The same goes for other, less serious (but still life-affecting) problems.

 

–noun
1. a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.
2. a person who terrorizes or frightens others.
3. (formerly) a member of a political group in Russia aiming at the demoralization of the government by terror.
4. an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France.
–adjective
5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of terrorism or terrorists: terrorist tactics.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorist
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While I do believe that some illegal acts can never be forgiven, in the case of Ayers, if society has forgiven him, that's good enough for me.

Does anyone know to what extent he was involved in that terrorist group? I am not a big fan of guilt by association, as has been made clear.

 

My reason for saying society has forgiven him is that he has been able to become a university professor. I wouldn't expect someone who has committed murder, rape or any other such crime to be able to get that position.

 

Proof? Particularly about the nazis.

As for communists, there is nothing inherently "evil" with their ideology, but the real-world attempts at it has been far from convincing.

 

what's wrong with communists?

 

Communism will never work, since there will always be people at the top that live like kings.

See: Castro, Fidel.

As for Chomsky, recently I was in a bookstore browsing through some history books and I came across a book he wrote, I believe it was called something like "Chomsky on Failed States," in which he argues that America resembles a failed state. I just remember putting it down and asking myself that if America was a failed state then what isn't a failed state?

 

Yea, but why would you group it in with anti-semitism/hate speech? I don't see the problem in having a professor who's a communist.

 

Your first link doesn't support your point - it contradicts it. The professor was fired after his racism was discovered - obviously he was not hired with that knowledge available.

The second link is just confusing, I can't draw anything out of it.