Global Poverty Act

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  1. PapaG

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    I thought I'd post it on this board too since Obama sponsored it and has forwarded it to the Senate floor.

    Does it seem like a good idea?
     
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    $845 billion US tax dollars to the UN over the next decade and change for the UN to redistribute to the governments of poor nations.


    Good idea or bad idea? Please explain.
     
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    Curious as to where this additional money will come from? Curious also why Obama hasn't been talking about this piece of legislation that he played a major role in getting to the floor of the Senate.
     
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    Averages out to at least $2500/per eligible taxpayer over the next decade.

    Sweet! Sign me up! Great idea!
     
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    We'll have spent that much in Iraq in a shorter period of time.

    I find one rationale morally superior to the other and thank Jesus that my candidate feels the same way.
     
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    Our spending thus far in Iraq is a sunk cost. Using that as a guage for how much we should give to this Poverty Act is ridiculous.

    I don't know the details of this Act, or it it is a good idea or not, but it has nothing to do with how much we have spent in Iraq.
     
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    You are right that it is a sunk cost and if we are talking solely on the merits on the Global Poverty Act then sure, they have nothing to do with each other. But the ideology separating the two acts of spending is significant to the mindset of the people in charge. I chose to make the cost of this act relative to a spending policy of the past 5 years for reference. Nowhere did I state how much SHOULD be spent on the GPA as it relates to Iraq funding.
     
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    Nobody's going to object to helping the poor, but we have to get our own house in order to even consider this.
     
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    Then by that logic, you could have chosen to compare it to what we spend on Medicare, or SS, or welfare, etc. Those are also part of the spending policy for the last 5 years. Those comparisons would have been equally as meaningless.
     
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    How so? Please explain the above statement. How is McCain worse than every single other candidate that ran for President this year?
     
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    I will in this instance. Giving OUR money to the UN, for the UN to redistribute to the very governments that play a big part in keeping these nations poor, is a stupid idea.

    Want to help the poor? Give private contributions to the Red Cross, Salvation Army and the United Way like I do.
     
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    My initial reference to Iraq war spending is NOT meaningless. There is a very real scenario that could be played out if McCain is elected president that would not only extend the time frame of the Iraq war unnecessarily, but would also extend the war into Iraq's neighboring country, Iran. Would a GPA be at all possible if that scenario plays out? This has everything to do with the ideology of the person in charge and that's why I brought it up. Obama means an end to our aggressive foreign policy. McCain means more of the same. And this has everything to do with going forward.
     
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    HORRIBLE idea. The level of corruption in the UN makes the guys in the US Senate look like a hundred Jesus Christs.
     
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    I hope it ends up in the hands of awesome regimes like those in the Darfur region, North Korea, and Burma.
     
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    I don't know one thing about the idea but somehow I have come to the conclusion that...

    it makes me sick.
     
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    Contrast giving a corrupt organization like the UN nearly $1trillion of our money with, say, Bush's giving $15B+ to directly fight AIDS in Africa. He's one popular SOB over there.
     
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