Argh! Move the political threads to the politics forum and then we'll talk. Until then your claims are TAINTED.
You could always talk politics over there. So could everybody else. I guess Blazer fans and this board draws in people from all over the place. It's not our fault that we have such a diverse fanbase.
Many people click the "new posts" button on the tool bar and just visit the threads that look interesting, without looking which forum it is on. It is aggravating that each political thread has to be created twice: once in the political forum, and once in the Portland forum. There's no reason to segregate yourselves from the rest of the community. When all the Nets posters migrated from BBB.net (or whatever it is called) a year ago, we did the same thing; but we eventuallly branched out, and many of those Nets fans are now moderators on different sections of the site. In fact, we were pressured to do so, and as a result of that experience, the site management decided not to do the same to you--but I'm not bound to that decision. Why are you all so resistent? Is it really THAT important that you be "number one" in posts, that it is worth segregating yourselves off from the rest of the site, duplicating threads, and repeating discussions? If so, fine, on behalf of the Nets forum, we concede defeat. You are all the best. Now start posting in the fucking politics forum!
I guess it will take time for Blazer posters to migrate to other sections. Fact is, the meltdown at BBF stemmed from the OT forum being over-moderated. This community has always had the need for an OT forum. They like talking OT stuff to the same people. I think it's just convenient to stay in the Blazer board and not have to click bunch of different links to get to another site when there's just one on the top of the forum. It's ease of use and that is what keeps the Blazer fans from straying to a different forum to post political posts. And to be #1 is just fun! It doesn't mean anything, but it keeps people active and they may get some people to post when otherwise they'd just wait for another poster to make their same point later on. It encourages others to get involved in the community. In a way it's like a bottle deposit. Most wouldn't recycle if they didn't get paid to.
Those are the same arguments that the Nets forum made, including myself. If I could learn to branch out, everyone can--I was probably the most resistent among the Nets fans. Again, it is frustrating when a thread is created on a different part of the site, and three days later the same thread is started on the Blazers OT forum--and gets a more active response. So, we're in a bind. Either the rest of us ignore the Blazers OT board; we repeat the same posts we've already made in a different thread; or we just abolish the official religion/politics thread and make all posts in the Blazers OT forum, which strikes me as a bit ridiculous (not to mention we would lose people who didn't realise that this is what has happened).
We had some aggressive (Nets) mods who felt it was a good idea to push the nets posters to post outside the nets forum. This is not site policy, which always has been to let people post topics of their choice in the forum of their choice. The nets have an OT forum of their own. This is because the nets posters were posting OT threads in the nets forum and the mods there wanted a place to move them - or a better place to start those OT threads.
Why should there be a main politics section at SportsTwo at all? This is a sports discussion site. It's aggravating to have to create politics threads on politics discussion sites AND on sports discussion sites like this one. There's no reason you should segregate yourself to the community here. Why are you so resistant to branching out into the Internet? If you want to talk politics, there are plenty of sites to do it on. My point, of course, is that you are acting like there is some obvious reason why THIS community (or any fanbase community on this site) is different and shouldn't discuss multiple things, while the SportsTwo community as a whole can certainly discuss multiple things. I don't see how there is any difference. The reasons people discuss more than just sports on SportsTwo are, mainly: 1. it's more convenient to do it all in one place, and 2. it's more fun to talk to people you already know and like. The exact same reasons go for those of us who like talking politics and other current events on the Blazers forum. And (2) goes even more for many of us, who have known each other for close to a decade. No, I think you have it backward. The post-count competition is just something that has grown out of some people's pride in this group...the community identity hasn't grown out of wanting to be tops in posts. Personally, I've never cared about post counts, though I think it is funny how fast this group generates posts (real ones, not the silly ones related to this competition). I may branch out. On the old site, I ended up posting a huge amount in the communal NBA, EBB and Politics forums. And I was moderator of all of those forums at times. But then again, I may not. I was a lot younger then...nowadays, at my advanced age, lots of forums confuse me. Easier to stick to this forum and the sub-forum.
again, these are particularly the same arguments I made months ago. But now I'm here in the Blazers forum. Just think about it. Would you prefer that we coccoon ourselves on the Nets portion of the site?
Over on BBF I just stayed in the Blazers' or NBA forum. I'm doing the same over here. I have no interest to go post on other teams boards. That's why I find it interesting to see so many non Blazer guys on here. People can go where they want I guess.
I'd prefer you do what increases your enjoyment of this site. If it is interacting with us (among others), please do. If it is "cocooning" yourself (which is a relative statement...you already "cocoon" yourself away from all parts of the Internet you don't visit), then I'd want you to do that. The site's main purpose to users isn't about investigating principles of exploration and wider communities. It is about having fun, which means exposing yourself to exactly as much community as you enjoy.
We had (other) whining mods who continuously bitched about OT threads starting in the Nets board. "Is the Nets board the internet equivalent of Walmart? LOL" Acting like they were aggressive and originally pro to moving threads isn't giving them the credit they deserve.
By mid-November, this issue won't be as big as it is right now. The NBA is about to start, the elections are about to be over . . . really anyone going to the Blazer OT board to talk politics will be dissapointed. Now if you still want to talk nonsense . . . Blazer OT forum is a good place to go.
They proposed what they wanted to do and did it. You can't know what the response to those kinds of things are, and I think we stopped doing those things rather quickly after trying them out. In any case, you're a nets mod now, go build up the Nets forum and encourage the posters there to use their OT forum to become a stronger community.
Just for the record, that wasn't this: The proposition that Pegs and I made was that non-Nets basketball threads could go in the main forum during the off-season, but when the season started they'd be moved to the Nets OT forum, regardless if they were basketball or not (sort of like how they're made here). That's not to say that I wasn't at one point in favor of moving a non-Nets nba thread to another forum. I took that position in the first month I was a mod, and then abandoned that thinking afterwards. edit: heh, there's actually a point to that tangent. What I'm saying is that the old Nets mods decided to set the forum up like the Blazers currently have it. (Although the new Nets mods can go set it up however they want now).
