Another Palin reversal of the truth

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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  2. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Wouldn't this country be better served if Sen. Obama's record was analyzed as much as Gov. Palin's? I think so.
     
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    Well I have news for you. Anybody running for President is under the microscope. There is just a big difference between being under the Alaska microscope, and the national one. Palin was not ready for the national microscope, and most likely never will be. What amazes me, is the fact that you claim they have not been treated equally. The thing I would point out is, Obama has not made the mistakes in the media that Palin has, and it is those mistakes, which are her undoing. When you make mistakes such as she has, it invites more questioning, more skepticism. You know the old saying, where there is smoke, there is fire. Palin has made more then enough mistakes in the media to provide the smoke. Now the people are looking around for the fire.
     
  4. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I agree with you. Someone running for President should be vetted at least on the same level as someone running for the Vice Presidency. In the case of experience, Sen. Obama has less experience than Gov. Palin, so why wasn't his past as scrutinized?

    It doesn't matter that Obama hasn't made mistakes. Sen. Biden has made more mistakes than the other three candidates, but they're not scrutinized either. Why? The media says, "Oh, that's just Joe. He's a gaffe machine." The bottom line is that the Clintons and the GOP tried to get the press to pay attention to his past, and the mainstream media has taken a pass at every step. It's gotten so bad, real reporting is left in the hands of scumbags like Sean Hannity and rags like the National Enquirer. My question is, "Why?"
     
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    Actually no that is not the case. I have seen plenty of coverage of Obamas past. The thing you don't realize, is that folks don't give a shit about any of that. Once you get over that fact, you will get past realizing why it isn't working.

    Ayers- An old violent hippie, that many people from that generation can actually associate themselves with, even though they have changed over time. Secondly, Ayers charges were dismissed. People in this country have a right to continue to earn a living, however they may, if they are not convicted of a crime, do they not? He chose to work in education. Over the years he has worked with many people in education. Do you seriously want folks to believe, that every single person he worked with over th years, has become tainted to be a violent hippie terrorist? What does he walk down the street, and touch peoples hands and they are magically hippie terrorist? Last I looked, Ayers was actually working the last couple of decades finding educational grants for upper education schools. That is a pretty good thing to be doing in my book.

    ACORN- He represented them once in trial. What the F does that have to do with now? Last I looked, even the lowest of life is allowed legal counsel, let alone voter registration groups. Lawyers provide that service. Obama is a lawyer. Secondly, if you haven't seen the amount of bullcrap that signature collectors all over the place do, then your in the dark. Come out of a new seasons and you will get jumped by folks collecting voter registration, signatures for petitions. They are all paid by the number of signatures they get. As soon as you have something like that in place, it get's shady at the street level, not the organization level.

    These issues nobody cares about, because they have nothing to do with him.
     
  6. BlazersBlood

    BlazersBlood It's flowing within me.

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    I'm not getting what you are saying? This ploy by Palin is right along the lines of Dick Chaney's & George Bush's no bid contracts for services in Iraq where they are treating their corporate buddies to live on the fat of the land. Do you agree with this method of running the government? Government officials are supposed to be there for the people, not just their own people. Palin is being exposed and it's great. For being such a moral Christian she sure does delve into some pretty shady practices in her position of power. If she's pulling off these stunts as Governor of Alaska, I shudder to think of what she'll do when she gets into the White House.

    Just because the other candidates aren't getting as exposed is because they aren't such easy targets. Palin is giving up all this low hanging fruit for the media to pick, where the other candidates either have covered their tracks or just haven't done as much as her in her short time as governor.
     
  7. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Hysterical. "No one cares about it", therefore the questions shouldn't be asked. You really get the leaders you deserve with that point of view. Me, I prefer more information to less.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I guess the fact Tony Rezco just happened to get that Senior Housing project close to Washington Park after he helped Sen. Obama buy his house was purely coincidental. Or the fact that he steered state money to Reverend Pflager and others that supported his candidacy. Yep, Sen. Obama is different. He'll bring "change".

    What about Joe Biden? His son graduates from law school and his first job is with the govgrnment affairs department of MBNA, Delaware's largest credit card company. Coincidence? Or what about his other son working as a lobbyist? Yep, that's squeaky clean. Even cleaner is that Biden--during his presidential run in 2008, got that son a job at a hedge fund making $1.8MM, even though he has no financial experience. Let me know what jobs Sen. McCain or Gov. Palin got their kids. McCain used to be like Obama, but being one of the Keating Five changed him into someone who focused on reform.

    As for contracts that appear to be non-competitive, you have to understand that there are companies for better or for worse can only be done by one firm. My wife works for one that takes over bankrupt Head Start programs and gets them back on their feet. The Obama camp has reached out to them and told them to prepare to have their company triple in size if he's elected and that their contract would be renewed on a cost plus 10 basis rather than a fixed rate. But I guess Sen. Obama is somehow different from what has come before.

    So, you're satisfied with the explanation that the media is lazy? That's okay with you? I guess we have different standards.
     
  9. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Let me know when McCain's kids need to work for a living.
    Let me know when any of Palin's kids even manage to graduate from high school. So far they are 0-2, and I don't think Trig is a hot prospect. So it is all up to Purple and Cashew.

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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I wasn't aware the children from McCain's first marriage were wealthy.
     
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    Like McCain, they weren't.

    Until he dumped their mother for an heiress.
     
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    Your wife sounds like she's treading a similar path to the one currently travelled by Ayers.

    I suggest maybe you didn't vet her fully.:dunno:
     

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