Do you agree with this quote?

From Dwight Jaynes (via Sports Sunday)

"I'll take talent over experience every time"

He thinks that if we make the playoffs we can make some noise. When games get tight I think we have a coach who'll instruct his young players what to do. So in short, I agree with Dwight.

 

You can gain experience, you can't gain talent. You're born with it!

 

No I dont agree with that statement. With experience comes knowing how to close games and deal with adversity

Its a give and take and he is trying to make it an absolute

 

I absolutely agree 100 percent with that quote.

Here is a weird analogy that is impossible but should prove my point.

If someone were to build a time machine and take today's Michael Jordan back in time to 1991, would 40 something year old Michael Jordan be better at basketball than 1991 Michael Jordan?


No fucking way.

In my line of work I know people that have more experience than I have years as an adult. They are still hacks, they have just been exposed to this trade enough to know that they suck at it. With that experience they have learned how to get by, they will never be great.

 

But isn't it much more difficult to gain talent than it is to gain experience?

 

Well how about you dont use the extremes...How about a 3rd year MJ compared to an 8th year MJ...thats a more relevant argument

 

Hah. I remember when I was in my early 20s and thought the same thing about those that I worked with, but the weird thing is they got a lot smarter as time went on. So you'll be either the upwardly mobile guy that everyone talks about behind your back, or you'll be the know-it-all who really doesn't know-it-all.

The fact that you post on a message board tells me you are the latter, which isn't a bad thing, and you'll be in the group you loathe in another ten years or so.

 

You gain talent with experience whether it physical or mental. Obviously everyone gets experience but not everybody uses that to their advantage

 

yes i absolutely agree with the statement.

especially when people start talking about "playoff experience". the real significance of playoff experience is that it comes as a byproduct of being a good team.

 

When the margin between victory and defeat at such a high level of athletics is so small, and the talent gap between most players so miniscule, experience can be a huge benefit. Dwight presents false choice here; it not talent or experience, most elite teams have talent and experience.

On the bright side we'll have some more experience at season's end.

 

It really bothers me when people assume they know something they obviously don't know. Your post is a good example of this. Assuming that there are these two specific groups of people in a bodyshop? funny.....You last worked in one when?

I was talking about people who have been fixing CARS LIKE YOURS for 30 years and couldn't weld bubblegum to more bubblegum. I am talking about people who take a torch to high strength steels when they have no idea of the makeup of the steel involved, and are too ignorant to know that they just reduced steel that is made specifically for a certain purpose, to the type of steel they have EXPERIENCE with. Which is mild steel and most definitely not the best choice for the safety of your vehicle.

Just so you know, in an accident you might die if your vehicle was repaired improperly. The bad thing is that 99.99 percent of the time nobody will know that you might have lived if it had been done right, because your car is supposed to be smashed when you wreck it. They don't send out someone like the FAA to see why YOU died, regular accidents aren't that important.

It may be a little known fact to the real world but unless we are talking a simple bumper job on a new car we are ACTUALLY talking about something that can put your life in danger if you don't have it fixed properly.

I am 34 and I am the guy the boss gives the jobs to when he wants to make sure they are done right.


I am the guy he sends to class to make sure that someone in the shop knows about current vehicles and proper repair procedures.


I guess I was a bit naive about posting on a message board. I thought it was something I do for fun. My bad.

The good part is that I can now assume that most other people are like you said, the know it all who doesn't really know it all. Kinda funny how neither one of us must know it all.

 

That is an absolutely irrelevant argument. So far from being relevant as to be almost worthless.

I think it is pretty safe to say that Dwight would rather have an equally talented player with MORE experience. Why wouldn't he?

Try this example of extremes

You choose one of these for your next (or first ever) date.

A: Hot 20 year old girl who only had one boyfriend and never went all the way

or

B: Wore out 65 year old women who has been married 8 times and has six grandkids.

You take the experienced one if you want (shudders at the thought)

 

Meaningless quote... You don't get experience without talent. You have to be talented to stick around long enough to gain experience, at least the type that counts for anything.

 

in a 5 or 7 game series, the most talented team almost always wins. it just happens that they are also usually more experienced because their talent level has continuously gotten them that far.

 

But 1991 Michael Jordan had a TON of experience. Lost to the Pistons a couple times in the playoffs. Had been in the league for 7 years.

 

I'll take experienced and talented over talented with no experience any day.

JAFO

 

Bird and Magic was old and Stern needed a new marketing cow. Experience had nothing to do with it. Like previously stated you born with talent, you either have it or not.
Players like Kurt Rambis stayed in the league because of his smarts and determination.The Lakers didn't win because of him.Others like Elton Brand, Danny Manning (after horrible injuries) could stay because of talent.