OK Greg. I hope you make that 2-4 weeks time table, I want to see you live up to your potential Greg!
First off, Im not bullshitting you. Second, when I posted that I thought this thread was in the Portland forum so thats why I wrote it the way I did. Maybe some from the POR board will recall me saying this when we first started having the Oden vs Bynum talk a year or so ago... My reasoning: He looks clumsy at times which is a good way to get injured, I heard one of his legs is an inch longer which will put un-natural stress on the body, and just his history of injuries going into college. Then all the injury prone talk at the draft. Also, I have a stupid theory that the same hormones that make him look so old at a young age make his body break down a little faster...stupid huh?
Someone (not off the record, but under anonymity) before the draft said something like, "Oden looks like a 15 year NBA veteran" (referencing Oden's medical report)...but of course, went along with the line, you have to draft him anyway.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/basketball/320896_sonx22.html Back, wrist, knee, ankle, foot problems...and one leg is longer than the other. It's not looking so smart drafting this guy anymore.
Thats just when I first heard it lol Cause my friend was over when they said that and we kinda talked about it. My stepmom has the same problem, one leg one inch longer than the other, but at 5ft tall it don't really matter lol
I'm not even sure why Portland rushed him on the court to begin with. Their team won 41 games without him last year and Joel Pryzbilla is capable at being their starter until Oden is in better shape and his knee has fully recovered. They even left Oden in the game after he injured his foot and he was clearly not right laboring up and down the court. Bigs take more time to develop and their bodies have to get used to moving at NBA speed and the impact that comes with it. Why not let Oden come off the bench to minimize the pressure on him?
So you're saying we should disregard this injury because it's not "major", per se? I will tastefully disagree. An injury is an injury, and the fact of the matter is that this is the 3rd straight year that he has suffered an injury. Also to take in to account, an initial diagnosis can be horribly wrong depending on how the injury heals. Look at Andrew Bynum last year. His injury was supposed to be a 4 week injury. He ended up missing the last 47 games of the regular season and all of the postseason, and still wasn't completely healthy until into the offseason. His 4 week injury ended up taking what, 7 or 8 months before he was healthy? And it it ended up requiring surgery.
i agree. while most blazer fans were praising him for gaining that much weight, it makes him that much more injury prone. dude needs to find that balance of strength and finese. right now im going to say bad luck and bad conditioning. if this keeps happening and he becomes Dr. Andrews buddy then ill change my mind
David Thorpe, who has extensive experience in training players at the professional level, gives his thoughts: http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-35-117/David-Thorpe--Trouble-Signs-for-Greg-Oden.html
50+ lbs???????????????????????????????????? Did you know that sometimes saying or writing something stupid can lead to people disregarding everything you have to say? note to self...disregard David Thorpe at all times no matter how much credibility he is said to have
David Thorpe is overreacting, but he does have some valid points. If Oden worked out in Thorpe's academy he'd probably pass all the blame towards the coaching staff and team trainers. He always over hypes the players in his system and discredits everyone else in the industry. I think Oden has suffered from coaches rushing his progress. Every since his knee injury he's lost some agility and explosiveness. It takes time and a lot of repetition to get that back. Oden should be used sparringly this year and put into situations of a game where he can succeed and build his confidence. Then dedicate an offseason to developing his game, footwork, conditioning etc. By year two the Blazers can increase his minutes a little more and start him by mid-November. I think that's a better path for him. The Blazers are still very young, they can afford to wait for Oden to develop the right way and push for a title when all their young players are hitting their prime.
I think I say yes so far, but I think some people are taking it a bit too far. He has really only had 3 injuries of any significance in 3 years... Wrist injury in college, HUGE INJURY which was the microfracture, and then a foot injury. The last one he stepped on Fisher's foot, can happen to anyone. He doesn't have any nagging injuries... His knee is healed, he doesn't even wear a brace. His wrist is completely healed, and he stepped on someone's foot. Yes, the microfracture was big, and that is really the only concern, but that looks to be behind him... The other 2 he has had... tonsils (which shouldn't count as a bball injury or attribute to being injury prone) and a tweaked ankle that caused him to miss a day or 2 in training camp.... Sure he needs to lose weight and get down to around 265-270... but I still think it is too early to call him fully injury prone since a lot of it seems more like bad luck than a pattern. But I understand both arguements. Once he comes back, he should be close to 100% with no nagging injuries, so if he gets hurt it will be from something new. I need to see how this season plays out (his rookie year) to make a good decision on it. It didn't start off good though, i will tell ya that.
Only 3 injuries? That's a significant injury per year...and that's more than some people will see in an entire career. As for losing weight...I thought he was only about 250 as it was? Am I wrong on that?
you just called his last injury significant? yes you are wrong about his weight. espn lists him at 285.
Oden's only played in 32 games since he graduated from high school I believe. How is that not injury prone?
2-4 weeks is a decent amount of time, and who knows, the diagnosis could be wrong and it could be worse than what some think.