Championship: Huevonkiller vs. DynastYWarrioR6

Well thanks, I have no problem with your vote and opinion, at least you're a cordial guy. : ]

 

lol is that everyones word for the day?

 

Oh lol man. It's just that I recognize DW's team is formidable, this discussion is just for fun but people lose sight of that. DW is my bro as well.

 

Gilmore's rebounding dropped off from 15 RPG to 13 RPG...last time I checked that's still studly, and he put up 20 PPG during his prime. 22 & 13 is still very respectable numbers and he's by far better than Luc Longley ever dreamed of being.

 

Why did you mention Luc Longley? That was random as hell.

Gilmore used to average 17-18 rebounds a game and even 5 blocks a game. He never touched that in the NBA, it is a fair point. Same thing with Dr. J in how his rebounding totals fell (J's still amazing of course, but the context is nice). Across the board I've observed career seasons in the ABA.

 

Jordan and Pippen are going to get a lot of attention in the voting, sure, but Huevon's bench is Deron, Gilbert, Carmelo, Amare, Dwight. Holy shit.

 

Hawkins, Aguirre, Wilkins and Issel are garbage, right?

 

Well Dynasty is now up by 3 votes...

But I find it funny how you guys get all butthurt over this. I thought this was supposed to be a fun little draft. Let the participants make their picks, and allow the voters to vote for whomever they feel has the best team. Even if they don't agree with you. lol.

Calm down guys

 

Objection: I'd like to void those youtubes from being used in his defense as youtube wasn't around back then.

 

I was making similar comparisons like you did, so it isn't random as hell. Last time I checked, Gilmore is light years ahead of Longley. This is also an all-time draft, we're considering they're in their prime, don't know if you knew that, so there's no reason to throw out his dominant years. And like I said earlier, he still put up 22 & 13 in the NBA, those are GREAT numbers last time I checked. Compare those NBA #'s with McHale & Robinson, and they're practically the same with a small differences going both ways. I don't your reasoning how Robinson will make a difference while Gilmore will be non-existent.

 

Saying comments like Gilmore is better than Longley is pointless, whereas Rob will always be the kind of defender he was no matter who he's compared to. And my team is better than your precious Jazz that Jordan faced in the Finals.

Nah Gil wasn't GREAT to me, I just decided not to bring up pace again in order to mix things up. Had I taken that into account (I always should but you people complain about it sometimes ), then he's not on Rob's radar to be honest.

 

Aguirre was great, Issel and Hawkins were solid but they took a pretty big fall in the NBA. Issel was averaging 30-28 PPG, then he reverted to 21-23 when he went to the other league. Hawkins PER took a cosmic fall, he had 28 and 13 in the ABA, then 21-24 and 10 after he made the transition to the NBA, all this while ignoring the obvious advantage in ball possessions. Further these figures are also ignoring the decline these players had in their old age.

 

As tempting as it was to go with DW, soley based on the fact that he had MJ and Scottie....I went with Huevon. I love the balance he's got on the team. He's got dominant wing players, great PGs, and a fantastic frontcourt that's balanced between offense and defense. To me, there's too much balance with his lineup to vote against it.

 

Maybe those players spent their prime years in the ABA.

GMJ had an orgasm over your bench, which isn't much different than anyone else's. It's not like any of these teams has a bunch of scrubs that are playing those 10-12 minutes.

Actually, DW's team probably would use a seven or eight man rotation - tops. He could have the Phoenix Gorilla and it wouldn't make any difference.

 

That guy has some pretty sick dunks, I would vote for DW just for the fact of having the Phoenix Gorilla

As for Huevon, these arguments are pointless because having guys that average double-doubles mean nothing apparently.

 

Maybe the ABA had lower quality players on average than the NBA?

 

So what? Prime years are prime years.

 

That's one theory, though as I stated before it seems like a trend with various players to me not just prime.