Keith Olbermann's New Special Comment

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    i'm objecting to your mis-use of the word natural. as i said young of most (all?) other higher mammal species as well as more primitive humans are/were NOT actively raised exclusively by a mother and father. you're talking about something that is a matter of modern human tradition with religious underpinnings, not some intrinsic natural right.
     
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    Hmmmmmmmm.........OK?
     
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    I disagree. It's natural that a child has a mother and a father as a child can only be born from a mother and a father. To deny a child that opportunity is to deny the child it's inalienable rights.
     
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    did you even read my post? in most/all other higher mammal species young are actively raised either only by the mother or communally among multiple families. evidence indicates primitive human children lived and were raised in communal groups. there IS NO intrinsic "natural right" for children to be raised exclusively by the mother/father family unit scheme. nature doesn't care about rights. what you call inalienable rights are nothing more than a matter of modern human tradition. nature just goes with what works, and there is no evidence a child being raised by two men or two women doesn't work just as well as by one of each.
     
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    So the constitutional amendment to ban divorce is next on your agenda?
     
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    Good idea you have there.
     
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    Even divorce itself can't separate the link between the child and his/her natural mother and father. I absolutely feel for the children in divorce situations.
     
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    I think we'll also need a constitutional amendment to ban premature death.

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    You mean, like, abortion?
     
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    I'm all for that one too!!!:ghoti:
     
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    No, I'm not Gay. I just like walking around the beaches in Greece with my Speedo's and a little Bling Bling. Jeez, talk about closed minded.

    And I'm not at all a homophobe. I'm just against same sex marriage. Simple as that. I'm a Christian, and my beliefs mean more to me than any government laws or mandates. At the end of the day, I pray more for non Christians than I pray for Christian, because they are the ones who need the prayers more. And if MARIS61 is gay, I have no problem with that. Good luck in your love life. Just don't tell me I'm a bigot because I don't support your right to marry your boyfriend, your mother or your sister.
     
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    What do you mean? Physician assisted suicide?
     
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    in another few generationsl most of the religious bigots like you will be dead, their grandchildren will have become enlightened, fundamentalist christianity will be reduced to the fringe cult it should be as is rapidly happening right now in europe, and society in the US can get on with a rational discourse about issues like gay rights free from prejudice carried over from primitive superstitious times. i don't anticipate living long enough to see it, but it's definitely coming.
     
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    No, I meant parents dying, and thus depriving their children of their "inalienable right" to a two parent, one M, one F, home.

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    Hasn't that been predicted for over 2000 years? I'm sure your the genious that has it all figured out. I'm still trying to figure out what if anything I have said is bigoted. I believe Homosexuality is wrong and immoral. I don't think that gays should be herded up and shipped to France. Live your life the way you want. I don't have to applaud you for doing so. But I won't condemn you either.
     
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    Talk about being a bigot.
     
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    i'm only bigoted against religious bigots who think their personal religious values should be forced on a secular society. otherwise i love everybody : )
     
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    At least you're up front about it. I can certainly appreciate that.
     
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    But your beliefs, as whacko as they are should be forced on people? Go burn a book, a flag, or your bra.
     
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    Sure have. Watched Taxicab Confessions on HBO years ago and there was a hot cuban chick in the cab talking about this and that. I was like, DAMN that bitch is hot.

    Then she admitted that she in fact was a HE.

    whoops.
     

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