If you guys were to trade VC... (3 way POR/PHX)

doesn't Phoenix make sense as a likely destination? Shaq has been on record as saying he wants to play with VC more than anyone else before (as a guy he could get over the top) and he's been playing really well for you guys but you're not going anywhere this season right? VC is your only long-term contract (other than Harris). Wouldn't moving him now (while value is up and injury free) and getting a better draft pick be a better value long-term (with almost no salary after next season)?

In Phoenix stuff is a disaster, if they're going inside out they need a slasher bad, and VC is the guy, Nash is relegated to duties he can do, but doesn't excel at, is no driver, and has no one to feed on the perimeter right now (with no perimeter scorers around). Grabbing VC could make a lot of sense for them (if they get desperate) and Kerr would rather move Nash and do his own thing than go down with a sinking ship I would imagine.

As a Portland fan I love the thought of a couple year rental of Nash. He would fit well up here, have a lot of guys to feed on pick n rolls, hit open shots, not be relied upon to do everything (extending his career) and get to push the tempo for us selectively (similiar to his Dallas days with Finley and Dirk being Roy and Aldridge). I know he doesn't fit "long-term" but I think the playoff experience the guys get with him, the way he rewards them with easy buckets, and the pure consolidation would help our development even after he was gone.

What do you guys think of a deal like this:

NJ sends: VC
NJ receives: Bayless, Outlaw, Bell

PHX sends: Nash, Bell
PHX receives: VC, Blake

POR sends: Blake, Bayless, Outlaw
POR receives: Nash

It would save you a lot of money and net you two decent prospects. To save even more money (and get less in potential players) you could go with this:

NJ sends: VC, Simmons
NJ receives: Outlaw, Bell, Raef

PHX sends: Nash, Bell
PHX receives: VC, Blake, Bayless

POR sends: Blake, Bayless, Outlaw, Raef
POR receives: Nash, Simmons


What do you think of the concept in general (sending out VC for savings and prospects), do you think VC will be a Net by the end of the season, would he fit into a half-court Phoenix system, and does the offer seem realistic?

 

No way those are happening

 

I think a pick or two would be needed. Vince's value right now is pretty high, he's healthy, and he doesn't want to force his way out like he did in Toronto. Unfortunately for the Nets, he has a reputation of dogging it and not being mentally tough, which might bring down his value.

Bayless+Batum+Outlaw+ Bell + a future first rounder from the Suns.

 

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...15&teams=21~21~22~17~22~17~17~21~17&te=&cash=

Nets package Boone in a trade with Swift for someone else

 

no chance in hell, that's basically 4 first rounders for him (not to mention a ton of cap relief), I wouldn't trade Batum for VC straight up right now.

 

The Grizz got 5 first rounders and Marc Gasol for Pau.

 

Devin Harris and Vince Carter are untouchable now.

 

No one is truly untouchable. Say Lebron or Wade were up for grabs; those two would be shipped faster than you can say "No".

 

if you have a generational gap between your two "stars" on a .500 team, one of them is always "touchable" give me a break.

 

No, at least not for the kind of players you're proposing. For the same reason you like the idea of Nash on the Blazers, Nets brass like the idea of Vince with this team, helping the youngsters get into the playoffs, get seasoning there early, and test their wings to see just how high they can fly after a season together. Unless they are out of the playoff picture in February, he will not be traded this year. If they perform well enough this season, I wouldn't expect him to be traded until February 2010, at the earliest. Unless you are bringing back immense, top 5 pick caliber talent in a young player, there's no sense in trading him. He's 31 and still playing very high caliber basketball, and we have no idea yet how good this team will be in April.

 

I'd say it would be better and better, cuz we have so many young players on the team, and as long as they develop with the time going by, then we probably would be better.

 

As a Blazer fan I don't want Nash right now

 

how about

outlaw/raef for vince

blake, roy, vince, aldrige, oden = KILLER

 

That team has no heart, NJ is better.

 

Yeah, but, then you take Batum out of the lineup. I wouldn't give Batum up straight up for Carter.

 

Vince and Nets are doing fine right now.. why are you guys even discussing about trades?

 

Wtf? Are you serious?