Is our "window" beginning NOW? (and trade talk)

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  1. danxcr

    danxcr Active Member

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    hmmm the perfect 3 would be hard to find without giving up a quality young player :/
     
  2. User01

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    At the three spot we need a guy who can hit a shot, but not need the ball. Most importantly, he needs to be a good defender. Bowen or Bell are the type of guys we should get, ideally. IMO, the best thing we could do is wait till the offseason, then offer an MLE deal to Trevor Ariza and Josh Chilldress. Adding either of them to the team would be huge pickups.
     
  3. FOMW

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    Okay, would you do (and do you think Miami would do)

    Boone
    Swift
    Simmons

    for

    Marion
    Dorrell Wright
    Chris Quinn

    Quinn can really shoot, but we needed low salary and another body to keep the trade simple and avoid the need for Miami to have to waive a player. We would have to wait until December 15th because Quinn and Wright have trade restrictions.
     
  4. danxcr

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    look i think marion is a great athlete... but do you guys think hes a good team player? like todays game when amare tried to be tough with devin and hassel got in his FACE... thats UNITY... thats a BOND... and i freakin fell in love with hassel... and it didnt stop he played great D too!!!
     
  5. FOMW

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    Hassell played some GREAT minutes without scoring a point.

    You make a good point. Chemistry is a very important element in this team's success.

    Maybe Dumpy is right. If, by February, Yi is producing more consistently, it will make Simmons' weaknesses more tolerable. And if Yi plays better, it will probably lessen pressure on Simmons anyway, which will likely lead to better shooting.

    Oh well. Just excited about our team and thinking how we might get even better.
     
  6. danxcr

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    im with u man... i am in LOVE with this team... this is very exciting watchin this team grow infront of all of us!!!! w000t go nets!!!!


    cant wait for friday :p minn baby!!
     
  7. FOMW

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    Don't get me started on Mike Miller again. I didn't mention him cause I always bring him up in trade talks.
     
  8. danxcr

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    mike miller would be great... but what would minn want?!?! :p
     
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    To take it to the next level and become an elite Eastern conference team, and maybe even title contender, I think the Nets need a stud at the 4, a defender at the 3, and a very good sixth man off the bench.

    Since it doesn't look like any star 4's are available for trade, the Nets got to wait to see if Yi develops. In the meantime, I guess to compensate for that the Nets could try and get a SF like Maggette or Miller to help with the scoring when Harris or Carter are having an off game. And for 6th man maybe CDR can be that guy. Or I think a trade for a guy like John Salmons would be great to bring him off the bench.
     
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    wow, the thought of Shawn Marion is really intriguing. I think he would be an ideal three for our system and could make us a legitimate playoff contender. Depending on what it would cost to get him, if we could swing a deal I think it would be phenomenal.
     
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    Ak47!
     
  12. MatUK

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    Personally i think John Salmons wouldn't be on the bench. I'd start him every game
     
  13. Netsfan318

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    You've been reading my posts.
     
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    He'd be our SG and move VC to the SF.
     
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    Wallace or Nocioni are my choices. I also like the idea of James Jones, but I doubt Miami trades him.

    Wallace doesn't have the three point shot, but he plays very good perimeter defense and can run the break. We've been scoring a ton of points without Simmons hitting his shots so I'm not that concerned about our starting SF being a lights out long range shooter (can always turn to Hayes for a three). We need to start limiting other teams points. That has to be a high priority. Not going to get to far with our current defense.
     
  16. Dumpy

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    I think you are right in that the Nets are going to look at how to improve RIGHT NOW if they haven't already begun. I still think that Sean will be the chip to land someone with some ability, although it could also be Wally Pipp once he's healthy. I don't think they will be looking for a star, though; the chemistry is very important to the team success right now, and whoever they bring in to play SF has to know his place as the #4 or #5 option.

    Again, Simmons hasn't been horrible. If you take out his first few games of the season, when he was shooting around 25%, he has been good enough on the offensive end. Also, the Simmons/Hayes tandem have been playing very well. They're both unselfish, and they are different enough from each other to really bring a different look to the team when a substitution is made. A trade for a new SF may result in less time for Hayes, so you'd have to subtract that out from the potential benefits.

    Anyway, over his last 11 games now, Simmons is averaging 7.2 PPG on 40% shooting . . . have his shot attempts are three-pointers, and he is hitting 39% of those. He's averaging just 6.4 shot attempts per game . . . commits just 1.3 TOs and 2.4 PFs per game. . . . to get his shooting percentage up to 50%, he would have had to make just seven more shots over those 11 games, since half his shots are three-pointers, that would result in 1.6 more points per game (assuming no offensive rebounds on his misses), not that big a deal, since he takes so few shots. Anyway, it would take just one more successful shot every two games to get his shotting percentage up to a very reasonable number.

    Also, his defense isn't horrible; the Nets aren't getting torched by opposing SFs, and he does seem to hustle a fair amount. I wouldn't say that he is great or anything, but he is probably decent enough for the time being. Regardless, he's undoubtedly one of the worst starters in the league (that isn't there because of an injury), but the Nets don't need much from that spot. I think he could definitely be upgraded, and it would have the biggest impact on this team (since Yi isn't going anywhere), but we don't need a star there--just a guy who does the same things, only a little better.
     
  17. Netsfan318

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    Nocioni is basically a jump shooter he can't guard the 3 or 2 spot, James Jones has been inj. for most of this season. Shawn Marion would be my target since Miami wants to get something for him before he goes FA.
     
  18. MatUK

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    Yep makes good sense to me.
     
  19. Netted

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    Nocioni can definately guard 3s. Not 2s. Can also guard 4s.
     
  20. Petey

    Petey Super Sized Sexy, The Bulls Fan Killer! Staff Member Administrator

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    Gerald Wallace has the ability to guard the 4, and play a bit in the post. If Yi is on the floor, or Anderson; Wallace works well enough.

    I'm a big fan.

    -Petey
     

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