And that... ladies and gentleman is why we need a trade if we wanna be elite

Starting Blake and Batum will get ya wins vs the knicks, wizards, kings, twolves, etc. It won't get you close to wins vs the lakers, celtics, cavs etc. I know its hard to accept but if this team wants to beta the big boys or even be in the game...they cant have blake and batum start. I dont even know if aldridge could ever guard kg on his best day.


Seriously though, unless we upgrade PG position, we arent getting past the first round. Playoffs will be a nice goal this year but if we wanna get better, PG is a must upgrade. Im hoping Webster locks down teh SF spot but who knows with him. Blake just isnt big enough or fast enough to deal with guys like rondo, parker, billups, etc. those guys will kill him and its not close. We also need more scoring from whoever our SF is. Batum just cant give us that right now. Outlaw is a bench guy so its eitehr webster or make a trade for a legit scoring three. This would have helped soooooo much during teh cltics game since roy and aldridge were off. Thats where a vet SF could have been huge in this type of game. Webster i doubt will ever be this for us so we do need a PG and Sf if we wanna become elite. This showed a lot about where we stand tonight.

 

Bayless and Sergio will improve. So will Webster and Batum. Let the cake bake.

 

Unless we can land Lebron or Kobe, there isn't another trade that would make us on the same level as the Celtics/Lakers right now. They are the elite teams. We are the 2nd youngest team in the league. We have 3 rookies getting significant playing time. We are deep. We were a .500 club last year and we are in the process of taking that next step. You don't go from good to great in one night. We've got a great foundation and we could use a little tweaking at a few spots, but if you think we can get an elite PG or SF by trading Frye, Raef, Outlaw, Sergio, and draft picks you are dreaming.

 

nah...we def could get a major upgrade if we traded lafrentz and picks or outlaw.

honestlyu...we would have to beg someone to take frye

 

shameful....about as miserable of an effort ive seen.

on national f'in TV to make matters worst. At least bo outlaw got garbage points.

 

You're not going to get an elite player with a project SF, an expiring contract, and a first rounder. You've got to give quality to get quality. Serious talk would start with Lamarcus.

 

lol are you kidding? have u seen nba trades of late? what the hell did the lakers give to get gasol? what did the clippers give to get camby? NOTHING!

if anyone could get a legit player to help us..KP can.

 

The Lakers trade was so horribly one-sided that it had the entire league up in arms, it's the exception to the rule and it's not happening again. The Clippers gave up a TE, but I'll be damned if you can find another team in the same position that the Nuggets were in; that was another one-time deal.

The ramblings of a fan who wants to deal their crap for gold is just another instance of a delusional fan who knows nothing about the league and will be unhappy for a pretty long time.

Besides the Lakers (for reasons explained above), the best that a team can do under this CBA is a trio of 3 top-flight players. Right now I'd say that the Blazers have Roy, LMA, Oden that are the franchise guys and have to lead the other 12 men on the roster. If that's really not working you can retool your 2nd tier (Blake, Rudy, Batum, etc) or include one of the 3 in a trade to consolidate and upgrade at that position.

Here's something that I usually say to the dumb Nets fans who keep trying to propose one-sided deals. Lets say you had the incoming guys, would you trade then?

 

Tell you what, we can go back and forth like this or we can start giving trade ideas as to what 1) realistic and 2) would put the Blazers over the top.

Waddaya got?

 

Stop with the "we need a trade and we need it now nonsense". chill out. let this team come together and work through these times. you guys are so impatient it is comical. i think it's safe to say this team is playing a little over it's head and has progressed much quicker than anyone thought. that being said, there is no way we are winning a title this year. it has never been about winning it all this year. sure they could be hot in the playoffs but this is about setting up the foundation for years to come. and i can guarentee you they will not make a trade in some panic because we lost tonight.

and stop with the "we lost on national tv." i say, who the fuck cares? this isn't college where exposure means recruiting, this is the NBA. i don't care if someone in wisconsin watched us tonight and doesn't think highly of our team, because i still think highly of our team.

 

Blake left Denver because he had a vision on where this team was heading. He also liked Nate, his involvment with his players, and his work ethics. Blake wasn't like J.Jones demanding mid-salary collection because of his years in the league. Blake took a pay cut because his heart was telling him that this team was on the rise.
Batum has totally surpassed my expectations coming from France. Why do you think Nate keeps on starting him. Batum has good hustle, can block, and do things defensively.
Aldridge is getting his game on, getting more affective underneath the basket again. Sure, I still thinks he plays soft sometimes but his 15-20 footers are becoming more deadly and his FG% is going up again after he got over his many game slump.
All players have an off night. Roy has been pulling a lot of the teams weight the last few nights on this road trip. He can't always carry the load. Thats why its important that other guys step up. I won't be surprised if Portland is #1 or #2 in 3pt percentage by the end of the year.
Lets talk about our rebounding. Our rebounding has greatly improved over last years team. Oden, ROY, Batum, Aldridge and others are focusing on offensive and defensive rebounding. Isn't that a good thing? Why should we jump ship after one game because we lost by 15 pts.
I am happy with our team , its growing, maturing and gaining more experience. Remember I would rather have team chemistry than have star players shifted around to other teams when those teams are regressing.
Lets see, LA Clippers and Golden State have bigger names but their teams are suffering because they don't have depth like Portland does.

 

Add to the list our trade of $$$$ for James Jones and Rudy Fernandez. Not a bad deal IMO.

 

Unless Chris Paul or Deron Williams is walking through that door, what PG out there is available? It's fine and dandy to just sprout off to trade, trade, trade, but is there anyone REALISTIC that is available?
Billups would've been nice but he just got traded. We're not the only team looking for a good point guard to lead our team.

 

1.) Yeah, the Clippers did get ripped off. Camby sucks
2.) He's a fucking rookie. People are climaxing over Rudy, even though Gasol has been better
3.) Lateral move to change playing style
4.) Superfrugal move. Had nothing to do with basketball
5.) He was getting 13 MPG on the Spurs. Diamond in the rough
6.) Bibby isn't the same player he was before. He wouldn't push you over the top.
7.) He's playing less than 10 MPG
8.) Yeah, Clippers got robbed again.
9.) You're kidding right? I wish you posted this first, it would have discredited your whole argument. RJ doesn't defend, fails at passing, his shooting is meh at best, and doesn't get anyone in seats. Vince does all of those things, and is a better scorer. People make a big shit about Vince's contract, but RJ's is much, much worse.


1.) Devin Harris, Ryan Anderson, Keyon Dooling, an unprotected first, a good post defender, and a good perimeter defender for J-Kidd and change.
2.) Kenyon Martin for 3 first round picks.
3.) Grant Hill for Ben Wallace

I really don't feel like going on.

 

Raymond Felton or Ramon Sessions would be nice paired with Roy IMHO. Both seem available as well.

 

Actually we could probably land either Gerald Wallace or Antwain Jamison for some combination of the guys you mentioned. We need someone besides Roy who can consistently go inside to score, both are good scorers and Wallace plays good D as well. We can let the cake bake, I have no problem with that, but I'd also have no problem going after G Wallace - Jamison is good but too old and has a big contract left. My 2 cents.

 

They aren't enough of a improvement of what we have, imo. I'm still in Bayless corner hoping he will develop as the starter sooner than later.