Joakim Noah?

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Is he on the outs in Chicago? If he was, would anyone be in favor of picking him up?

    I can imagine that the answer from the majority will be an emphatic no - Noah is one of those players who divides people into "hate him" and "despise him", but I actually think two things that need defending:

    (a) he could be useful: he's skinny, but he's a decent rebounder and shotblocker, and he was a great lockerroom guy in college. Lots of people like to compare him with Varejao, and while he's not as wide as Sideshow Andy, he's similarly pesky to the other team. (I know, it's mainly because of the hair, but there are more similarities.) And Frye's not getting it done on defense against PFs.

    (b) he wouldn't be a poison: he's been in trouble in Chicago, most notoriously when his own team voted to extend his suspension (!), but I have a feeling that the losing wears on him worse than most given his college experience, and he'd really relish coming to a winner.

    At the moment the defense seems to suffer a lot when LaMarcus is out, and I think Noah can do a lot of the same things (he's got nimble feet for a near seven-footer and can pressure on the permimeter) as well as rebound maybe better.
     
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    Didn't want him coming out of Florida and don't want him now. He's got a terrible attitude and just doesn't do anything particularly well on the basketball court.

    Ed O.
     
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    Two for one blue plate special, when you buy Joakim Noah you get Tyrus Thomas with him too!
     
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    I think Noah would be a fantastic backup PF for this team. Put him in a good environment where he is enjoying playing and define exactly what you need from him (hustle, crashing the boards, playing respectable defense) and he will flourish.
     
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    I say do it if its reasonable. He's grown considerably, is actually decent at defense.....would be weird to have him and Oden on the same team!

    would be pretty interesting personality-wise on the team.
     
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    Am I to take it that you regret the LaMarcus Aldridge trade?

    Does Noah have any defenders in Chicago, or is he seen as a wasted pick?
     
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    I'd rather have a vasectomy performed with a rusty spork than see Joakim Noah in a Blazer uniform.
     
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    Please say no to NOah. :-) He has no skill outside of 5 feet from the basket and would only get in Oden or Przybilla's way if they ever played in the same unit. We need a skill PF hit shots out to 18 feet and who can defend not one that has no skills and only hustles.
     
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    I don't regret the trade. I was in the pro-Aldridge camp.

    Noah is seen as a wasted draft pick. After about 4 minutes of game action, he will be out of breath.

    Tyrus Thomas still has some defenders, but they are few.

    At the end of the day, Thomas/Noah have played a big role in making the Bulls the worst team team at both big man positions. On the bright side, their sucktitude landed us Derrick Rose.
     
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    ill take the chicago disgruntled youngin poo-poo platter for frye, ike, #1.
     
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    Noah is not a bad passer for a big man and when in shape (something he is not this year, I have no clue why - I do not follow the Bulls that close) he actually moves his feet pretty well doing a decent job on pick-and-roll on guards - so he does have a couple of good skills outside of the 5 ft range from the basket.

    For a backup PF - you really do not need much more, IMHO - he could be the opposite of Travis for the backup PF position - for games where we need interior help and having a backup PF that is bigger than the opposition instead of a smaller and quicker PF that can shoot from the outside - that we have with Travis.
     
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    Joakim Noah is out of shape because he spent his entire summer smoking pot and drinking booze.
     
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    Hey, there is a positive there. At least he was not trying to smoke booze and drink pot! :drumroll:
     
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    I'd take him at backup PF. Then maybe Joel wouldn't be by himself in trying to rebound with the second unit. I don't like Noah as a lottery pick and starting PF/C on a team, but I like him a lot as a backup PF, hustle player.
     
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    Isn't that what Summer's for?

    And if he's stopped since the Summer then he's a regular ascetic compared with the rest of the league.
     
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    And yet he's STILL in inferior physical condition. Amazing!

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    Hell no I would rather have Frye then Noah.:sigh:
     
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    That'll be the glue he's been huffing.
     
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    Ah... I knew I'd missed something. Thanks :)

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    Where can you get a metal spork? Camping stores or something? I would imagine that they make them, just haven't seen one.

    It might be telling that the only thing that interests me in a thread about Noah is a spork. Noah is the type of player I don't like watching play, even if you are winning.
     

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