Fair enough, I hope you're right. Care to give some examples though? Also, say come trade deadline this is the only deal available, do you do it?
Well, I'd think that a Frye + Outlaw and Randolph is workable, and that's better for Portland than your proposed deal. Beyond that ... ? I'm not sure. Maybe push for Luol Deng or wait to see if another young SF with a big contract becomes available. I would not do this deal... I like Wallace a lot but I would rather wait for another deal to come along and/or take our chances with some cap space. Ed O.
If the rights to Koponen were the sweetener that made an Outlaw + Frye deal for Gerald Wallace deal work, I'd definitely throw him in. I'd want to hold onto Freeland, though. A young and possibly good big man is a pretty valuable asset. I'm an enormous fan of Wallace, and I think he's right at the borderline of star. A defensive stopper on the wing (with the defensive flexibility to credibly guard 4s) who has the ability and mentality to take the ball to the rim and rebounds well? He'd be a rather perfect addition. Yes, he doesn't shoot the three-ball well...haven't we been complaining that the team is too perimeter jumper happy and we need someone besides Roy who will attack the hoop? Wallace as the starting small forward with Batum slotting in as the backup and a very young understudy would be a rather fantastic situation. And still retaining the RLEC for a future deal or cap space would leave the team's deal-making flexibility intact.
Proposed Trade at ESPN Portland Trades: Martell Webster Sergio Rodriguez Reaf LaFrentz $3MM Straight Cash Homie Charolette Trades: Gerald Wallace Nazr Mohammed I'd much rather trade away Webster in this situation because of Outlaw's ability to play both Forward spots. But if Outlaw instead of Webster was a deal breaker for Charlotte, I'd give in.
That's what I like him along with his defense. He doesn't force bonehead shots and plays within his game. He's got a nice knack for getting free under the hoop and getting cheap buckets too. He's a perfect fit with LMA and Roy.
That's because they're not available. Why would we propose trade that we know would never happen? Gerald Wallace would not require a player like Oden/Roy/LMA anyway. Charlotte is looking for cap relief. They want him out of there, so his trade value is lower than it would normally be as well.
Yeah that trade is horrendous for Portland. KP got Pritchslapped hard on that one. Gerald Wallace isn't that good and his trade value isn't very high to begin with.
Please explain what that even means...its such a cop out ...and dont even mention Jerry West because he was long gone from Memphis when this happened. It cracks me up/pisses me off when people try to use that as some kind of argument
Yet you think it's perfectly normal to act like it was a fair an even trade. Get your hypocritical shit out of here. 99% of basketball commentators, employees, and fans have all pblically said the fair wasn't trade. Yet you're acting like it's common knowledge how fair it was. Give us a break.
lol...posts like yours above are a dime a dozen on the topic. Nobody cares to actually back it up with actual reasons. Care to ACTUALLY respond to what their GM's reasoning was? Care to show me the better trade for them? There was a rumor the Bulls were offering their overpaid, under-performing, locked up for several years talent. NOBODY came out and said "Hey we offered this awesome package! Wtf?".
Everything you say can be applied to yourself. 99% of the world disagrees with you, BUT YOU CLAIM YOU AND YOU ALONE ARE CORRECT. Take your off topic trade talk out of this thread and off the fucking BLAZERS board for that matter. *edited: No personal attacks*
Wow...now Im a "fucking troll"...damn maybe I should have told you what I really thought about your "lets kill all the Christians" thread....anyways... It is not me and me alone. I am the only one who has given any reasons justifying my view here(which I guess is trolling to you). You on the other hand keep saying "but everybody says...blah blah blah". At first I was right there with you the day the trade happened saying "holy shit...how?!?" and so was every commentator. They are paid to say shit so they say "wow look at this lopsided talent trade" rather than actually breaking it down and trying to see the motivation behind Memphis's decision....but yeah, Im a "fucking troll" and all your "points" were spot on
Wallace and Mohammed works for Outlaw and Raef. Mohammed is an overpaid stiff with years left on his contract... I bet they'd be happy to get rid of him as well.They could sell the trade on the basis of Outlaw's outside shooting. I'd be happy to see Frye go as well, if that was the deal. iWatas
I think the biggest plus would be gaining a lock down perimeter defender which is one of the Blazer's biggest weaknesses as illustrated in the Clippers and Magic game.
I'm not saying that I think you are a troll (nor am I saying that you are completely innocent in this thread) but recently I got shit from a certain Laker mod for going into that forum and saying something that he disagreed with. Then accused me of constantly saying things to get a rise out of Laker fans. So I know how you feel. You state your opinion, back it up, and then get personally attacked just because you are a fan of a different team. I guess it goes both ways. Everybody (a lot of staff included) needs to grow the hell up and realize that we can disagree on things and have intelligent debate without personal attacks and bitching.
I read that...I agree with you, you shouldn't have gotten shit for what you wrote/being there, only a little friendly shit talking back.
If was not a good trade for Memphis, at all. Other GMs were mystified. I don't think Laker fans would take the trade back, if it were so balanced.
On the Gasol trade: saying it made sense for Memphis because Kwame's was the biggest expiring contract available is laughable. Since when does it matter if they get X amount expiring in 1 player or 2-3? A lot of GMs came out saying that last time they asked, Gasol was off limits (at least for a fire sale like this), and then BHAM, he is a Laker. I am pretty sure if they sent out feelers around the league that all they wanted was expiring contracts and cheap young talent (on the level of Crittenton, LOL), they could have gotten AT LEAST one more solid prospect in addition to Marc and maybe 2 or 3 players equalling Kwame's deal.. perhaps even dumping a bad contract like Cardinal's in the process.
