OT: Do you think a squad of all SGs/SFs could win an NBA championship?

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  1. AgentDrazenPetrovic

    AgentDrazenPetrovic Anyone But the Lakers

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    Change the offensive and defensive games up a bit.....

    say if you just loaded a team with the best SGs and SFs at every position...basically all swingmen......no "big men", no "point guards". Just swingmen.....

    how would they fare? perhaps someone can simulate?
     
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    The league controls who gets to be champion, so they'd have to have a reason to want it.
     
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    I don't see why not. Put a guy like Ben Gordon at point guard. Get a versatile guy like Wade at the 2 guard, and a good shooter like Joe Johnson at SF, then some guys with length/strength at the big men positions positions like Lebron, Sefolsoha, Diaw.
     
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    Wouldn't this just be some variation of the Warriors?
     
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    The only way that this would work would be if you had 5 elite sg/sfs. So no, it could never happen because the salaries would not allow for all of them to be on the same team.
     
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    Depends. I mean if someone had a Shaq in his prime, I don't think the swingmen would have a chance.
     
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    Exactly. And as posted earlier, the Warriors basically run the same system within the salary cap.
     
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    ill sim something on 2k9 and let you know. im thinking...

    roy
    wade
    kobe
    melo
    lebron

    ill have to edit thier positions and such, my guess is they go 82-0
     
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    Bulls beat Utah last night, and they played Rose, Gordon, Hughes, Sefalosha, and Nocioni for most (if not all) of Q4 and a good part of the end of Q3.
     
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  10. Денг Гордон

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    Yeah, but like I've been saying, Sefolosha should be converted into a power forward.
     
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    Utah w/out Boozer has zero presence in the post. They are a donut.
     
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  12. Jurassic

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    That would be a valid point, IF the Jazz were a championship caliber team, and IF the Bulls had just beaten them in a 7 game series.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I guess an elite squad composed of all-star 2s and 3s could win, but there's only so many shots to go around, so it's not like they'd all be going off for 20+ apiece. Actually I thought about this a little bit more, and it occurs to me that a team of even elite 2s and 3s would still get absolutely abused on post ups against a team like the Celtics, and if you put them up against a traditional championship squad that plays aggressive perimeter defense and can pack the paint with a couple of 7 footers I don't see them taking a 7 game series.
     
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    Not if you have Lebron though. Lebron is big enough to play center. Lebron would make this concept work too easily.
     
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    Um, it's still a valid point, isn't it?
     
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    Nope.

    1. Bulls beating the Jazz is only 1 game, not a series. This thread is about winning a ring.
    2. Utah is not a championship caliber team, nor is this a playoff atmosphere.
    3. It's not like the Bulls used only 2s and 3s the whole game.
     
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    Yeah I guess that's true, but Lebron is a freak of nature; he's a point guard in a power forward's body. For the sake of this thought experiment I'd rather exclude actual individual players.
     
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  18. maxiep

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    Well, they beat us like a drum inside with Carlos.
     
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    The Bulls showed how it could be done, albeit not with the greatest of players.

    They played a lot of zone, but were able to box out and grab rebounds. The Jazz were clearly able to exploit mismatches - the Bulls fouled Okur several times because he was able to post up with good position and get good looks.

    Milsap went 11-14 (22 points) with 10 boards and 3 assists. Okur had 23 points and 13 rebounds. Letting their bigs get their points while forcing the rest of the team to shoot long range shots was a strategy that worked.

    At the other end, the Bulls were able to run and get the ball downcourt faster than the bigger/slower Jazz could get back on D.

    It was a close game until about 4:00 left, and the Bulls broke it open enough to put the Jazz in a hole they couldn't dig out of.

    Granted, Rose/Gordon/Hughes/Nocioni are 4 pretty good players - a team with 3 guys better than Gordon/Hughes/Noc could do some real damage.

    I see the point about the Warriors, but I'm not sure they are particularly talented either.
     
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    Yes they could, it would be similar to the USA national team, except LeBron at C instead of PF. You can have Melo or Marion or whoever at PF... then you can have a Roy, Wade, Kobe backcourt and if Roy is converted to the full time PG he would still do great since he doesn't need to concentrate on scoring just setting ppl up.

    They would be over 120ppg, but it would all depend on how the play D. Roy/Wade/Kobe is solid, LeBron could probably defend any C in the NBA minus maybe Yao Ming... but LeBron is similar sized to Dwight Howard, maybe 1.5 inches shorter.

    It would be that team vs. the Celtics, as the Lakers would lose Kobe and the Cavs would lose LeBron, but the Celts wouldn't lose anyone. Give that team some time to learn to play together, and by the All Star Break they would be unbeatable.

    That is what I think at least. LeBron is the wildcard, as imo, he can play all 5 positions.
     
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