Captain Jack heads "Bring Back Baron" Movement

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  1. jason bourne

    jason bourne JBB JustBBall Member

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    I wasn't sure if this was satire or a make believe article, but I laughed. The Warriors are so stoopid :biglaugh:.

    Warriors' Jackson captains 'Bring Back Baron' movement
    By Marcus Thompson II
    Staff writer
    Updated: 12/28/2008 10:45:27 PM PST

    LOS ANGELES — The Warriors came to Hollywood a day before Sunday's game, so you can probably imagine how swingman Stephen Jackson spent his Saturday. That's right, hanging with former teammate Baron Davis, one of Jackson's best friends.

    What you might not imagine is what Jackson talked to the Los Angeles Clippers point guard about: Davis coming back to the Warriors.

    "That's all we talked about," Jackson said. "I went to his house, spent some time with his mom and his grandmother. He wants to come back. And if he wants to come back, I want him back."

    After talks about a contract extension with the Warriors stalled, Davis opted out of the final year of his contract in July and signed a five-year, $65 million contract with the Clippers. Davis has said he never wanted to leave the Warriors but chose the more secure option. Things haven't gone so well with the Clippers. After losing to Dallas at the Staples Center hours before the Warriors took to the court, the Clippers are 8-21.

    Jackson said he's going to be the president of the "Bring B.D. Back" campaign. It is feasible that the Warriors and Clippers could pull off such a deal. It would have to involve swingman Corey Maggette (for salary cap reasons) and/or guard Jamal Crawford (to make room in the backcourt).

    Clippers owner Donald Sterling had said publicly last season that he wanted Maggette around long term. And Crawford, or even point guard Marcus Williams, would fill the Clippers' hole at point guard, if Davis were to go.

    "I think that would be great for us," Jackson said. "Coach loves him. Him and (guard) Monta (Ellis) have good chemistry. If they could work that out, that would be great for the organization."

    Full article here:
    http://www.contracostatimes.com/sports/ci_11327156?source=rss
     
  2. HiRez

    HiRez Overlord

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    If we can put it into the contract that Baron can't take more than 15 shots per game and can't take any 3-pointers then I'd be down with it. Seriously though, although I'd like to have Baron back right now, I think the $14M he'll be owed in 2011/12 and the $15M he'll be owed in 2012/13 will be painful. Of course it was a lot easier to argue how sketchy Baron's contract looked before we had Maggette's and Crawford's on the books.

    I don't know, I think this is a pipe dream, partly because I don't think Dunleavy likes Maggette and for other reasons. It's just another distraction this team doesn't need right now. If we're going to dream, let's dream big and start fresh.
     
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  3. AlleyOop

    AlleyOop JBB JustBBall Member

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    This looks fair:
    I'd do that. :ghoti:
     
  4. ToddMacCulloch11

    ToddMacCulloch11 Who me?

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    hahaha, that'd be awesome if baron and magette were traded for eachother.
     
  5. Doctor Kajita

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    Hindsight is always wondefully 20/20. If we didn't have all this cash/years committed to Maggette, Sjax, Azubuike, and Crawford, do you think we'd still be wanting Baron back? Doubt it. We'd be happy that we have all this salary cap space and young talent to evaluate. What we have is a f-ing mess, to state the obvious.

    Only bright spots this year are Belinelli and Biedrins...the great white hopes...lol
     
  6. WarriorFan

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    I'd throw Wright in if need be to get Thornton and get rid of 2 bad contracts for 1 bad one.
     
  7. Doctor Kajita

    Doctor Kajita Active Member

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    Can we throw in Rowell too? I'd rather have Dunleavy as a GM...at least he has bball knowledge.
     
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    Not. Wright has not yet even finished his 2nd year in the league.
     
  9. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Thornton looks pretty one dimensional.

    I'd rather wait until Ellis comes back before we start pulling triggers on Mags/Crawford for Baron type of deal.

    I think the only upside is that Baron, when healthy, can make guys like Wright, Biedrins a lot better. But the issue is Baron takes like as many shots as Maggette or Crawford does at times and they're not even high % shots. The guy is usually floating around 39% field goal accuracy and about half a dozen ill advised 3 point attempts.
     
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    The point is that now it would be the lesser of two evils. This summer, I was thrilled that Baron was gone. Now, with the mess we have, his contract is a lot better for this type of team than Maggette's. It's a sad statement, but true, that Baron for Mags/Crawford type package would be a good thing for the Warriors current situation.

    It would have ben way better to just have the cap space, and playing the young guys for better/worse. But that scenario is a thing of the past.

    I mean.... people were seriously considering Stephon Marbury to the Warriors.... that just shows you how bad the current situation is, IMO.

    Baron would be a savior right now, lol.
     
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    All 3 of those players - Maggette, Davis, and Brand - have been kind of disappointing for each of their teams. I'd like to have the Boss back. But I don't see it happening. But I guess weirder things have happened.
     
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    Lol, this is one good comedy. Warriors didn't want to give him 3 years extension. Davis left Warriors in last minute to join Brand and Clippers. Brand left Clippers. Warriors gave a huge contract to Maggette, which they didn't give to Davis. All three players and three teams sucked. And less than a half of the season, Jackson wants to reverse it, and Davis won't mind it... Funny thing is that if Warriors gave Davis an extension, none of this would have happened.

    Sure, as long as Clippers accept Maggette's contract, I would love to get Davis back. Davis for Maggette and Williams. Of course, it would be very hard to convince Clippers at this point.

    PS. I just checked standing to see if we have any chance to make PO by getting Davis and Monta back. We are 9 game back, and Utah is out of PO with 19-14 (which is 47 wins in 82 games). Wasn't West suppose to be weaker? And, of course, Eastern conference playoff teams still has two teams under .500...
     
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  13. xplicitjc

    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    lol it's like getting back together with an ex-girlfriend...

    i'm all for it hahahaha, i can't believe it's being discussed, but mags/crawford for baron/thornton i would do in a heartbeat, no if's and's or but's....i would be fucking thrilled!!
     
  14. Run BJM

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    As bad as it is now I don't want Baron back. I said during the summer that I wouldn't trust Baron if given a long term extension and he hasn't done anything thus far with the Clips to prove me wrong. He was good under Nellie when his next contract extension was in sight but I just flat out do not trust him to stay in shape, healthy, and motivated on a long term deal. We'll have to deal with the team sucking ass for a while but ideally the payoff will be greater than a quick fix of bringing Baron back but having to keep him for 5 years where he'll be old, broken, and fat.
     
  15. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I agree with Run. He would just dominate the ball really badly and force up crap like Crawford does now. He's only good when Sjax is playing because Sjax is a reliable set shooter who can make the extra pass inside. When Sjax dribbles it, he's not as reliable as a scorer. Baron made him better when attacking the rim and looking to kick out.

    This is what we need to do. We need a classic point guard to run the show, we need to stick all other ballhandling/shooting/passing guard to a shooting guard or small forward position (not point guard or power forward). This will decrease our turnovers because Sjax won't be the primary setup guy, and we'll make more efficient shooters out of guys that aren't so great at scoring off the dribble. Just imagine how good Belinelli or Crawford or Morrow could be if we gave them easier outside shots. Playing inside then out would give this to them. Also, if we plan to capitalize on transition offense we better start playing more D and rebounding. Everything involves developing our big men. We could of used more Brandan Wright and if he ain't tough enough, why did we ever get rid of Richard Hendrix? F man! We have to try different options until we finally get serviceable role playing bigs. Then if we're lucky, we can try our hand at getting a superstar big in one of these drafts. We've never landed one until Webber.
     
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