Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap thats the nba's fault for appointing a doctor who evaluated his injury wrong.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap get paul allen to give him a fat check under the table, and tell him to go play in euro
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap Good point. Can anybody confirm this? How can he get credit for games before he serves his suspension?
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap Read the article. 6 preseason games + 2 regular season games = 8 games. If they were counting the games in the suspension, it'd alreadry be at 10.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap I'm not too worried about all of this. One, even if this is true, even IF Miles plays, and even if the amount goes back on the cap, IMO KP and Penn already have the legal stuff drawn up for the appeal of it. Two, if the appeal doesn't go through, things have changed since September. Then, we were really glad for Miles to be off the cap b/c that allowed us flexibility to work around the Webster and Frye (and to a small extent Diogu) cap holds, ensuring we didn't have to sign them to a high extension price in October with them having all the leverage. It also allowed us to be able to keep Blake and Outlaw and still sign a max- and a mid-level-esque player. Now, even if that 9M goes back on the books, we've already signed Webs to his extension. His 11M cap hold (iirc) will be about 4.3M, so there's almost 7M in "space savings flexibility" right there. I think we've seen that Frye and Diogu's play does not warrant 9M cap holds, so they'll either be traded or renounced. I don't think Blake or Travis is here the day after the draft, but even if not I doubt anyone in here would lose sleep if we had to trade or not pick up the options on those two b/c we were signing a max player or doing a lopsided trade and needed the space. In September, we didn't know who our long-term SFs were, if Bayless could play, if Sergio was ever going to be anything but useless, and what we'd get out of the bench. We know now that Frye and Diogu are joining Blake and maybe Outlaw in the "not in the long-term plans" category, with perhaps Sergio joining them (though I personally don't think so, but I'll concede that that's still potentially up in the air). So I don't see this as a crushing blow, even if we lose the appeal. With Miles' 9M, we have ~42M in cap holds for the summer. (That's if we don't pick up the options on Travis and Blake). So we could sign a player for around 18M or so, depending on what the final cap number is. Not that worried.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap I don't think there is any connection between the suspension and the medical un-retirement. Presumably the suspension was for 10 regular season or playoff games - preseason games excluded for obvious reasons. The medical unretirement, if that article is right, includes preseason games. Obviously he can't play if he's suspended, but that doesn't mean he has to serve the suspension before games count towards unretirement. Ah well. barfo
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap Right now Portland has $50mil on the books for next year INCLUDING Miles' contract. That seems to be under the salary cap to me. Frye and Diogu have qualifying offers, so they aren't guaranteed to be here next year, and at this point, I doubt they will be.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap Look everybody just go ahead and assume that he's going back on the cap, it will lower your blood pressure and will probably mean that KP goes ahead and makes a move with RLEC before the deadline rather than trying to make a splash in free agency, so nobody will have to delay gratification.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap I got that, but if the NBA says he must serve his suspension before he plays, I would think that would be another grounds for appeal if they count preseason games when he had a suspension to serve.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap I read the article, but it reads like bad journalism and sounds like a lot of fluff.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap He just needs to play in 10 games. It's not a matter of punishment, or anything like that. It's just proving that it's not a career ending injury. Pre-season games he plays in with a pending suspension should count in that.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap Whomever picks him up should be tarred and feathered. If it is the Nuggets, it will only add to my disdain for that franchise. I say Paul hire some teamsters and picket the hell out of their arena and practice facility.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap Look, the CBA is just a really poorly written document. The letter and the spirit of the rule are two different things. This item was put in to stop a team--read the Knicks--from getting Allan Houston medically retired and then re-signing him at the vet min--saving the difference between the max and the min on the cap. It was neer forseen that a player wouldn't be wanted by their team. Let's not confuse "can" with "should". Darius can play, just like Jonathan Bender can play. However, he's grinding his knee joints to dust with every game. His joints are so bad, the NBA has told him it's unwise to continue to play and that because it's not his fault he'll receive his salary. It's no different than worker's comp. If you're injured on the job, you're not banned from working, you're told that your injuries are so severe that you're not required to work for your paycheck. This country offers freedom of choice. If someone is stupid enough to risk knee replacement surgery, their employer can't and shouldn't be held responsible. P.S. Tom Penn was an attorney in a previous life. If you think the Blazers aren't prepared for this scenario, you're kidding yourself. They worked closely with the league and dotted their i's and crossed their t's on this issue.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap You keep saying that, but you just don't get it. Cuttino Mobley was just medically retired due to a heart issue. Can he still play? Sure. Is there a risk that he may pull a Reggie Lewis? Absolutely. Learn the difference between "can" and "should" and ask yourself again if it's a career ending injury.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap I live in Denver. I have no problem going Tonya Harding on his ass. In fact, seeing Darius on the ground screaming "Whhyyyyy meeeeeee???" would give me a great amount of personal satisfaction.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap Actually, if a team does pick him up, we should hope it's the Nuggets. It would make the case easily that they have a vested interested in fucking us over. From not promoting Warkentien to them being in our division, the case makes itself.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap For all you guys who are so pissed about Miles' money going back on our payroll, what did you initially hope that we would do with all that capspace? After looking at the list of available free agents this summer, I'm not really that intrigued by anyone outside of Millsap and Lee (both of whom are restricted FAs, btw). I suppose more room would make it easier for KP to deal with S&Ts or BYCs, but I'm not really aware of anyone who would be available.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap I guarantee you KP has a list of players he knows are available that have never occurred to us. The money was never going to a FA. It was to make a lopsided trade.
Re: Miles 2 games from counting on the cap This Miles saga is like a bad rash that won't go away. I think if Miles' contract does go back on our books, Pritchard will be more willing to trade Raef by the deadline.
