Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on the..

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, Jan 8, 2009.

Moderators: 6

Moderators

  1. BrianFromWA
  2. Chris Craig
  3. Darkwebs
  4. Ed O
  5. PtldPlatypus
  6. SlyPokerDog
Page 1 of 2
  1. KingSpeed

    KingSpeed Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2008
    Messages:
    63,208
    Likes Received:
    22,400
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    actor
    Location:
    New York
    KingSpeed, Jan 8, 2009
    #1
  2. Darkwebs

    Darkwebs Awakened to emptiness Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,917
    Likes Received:
    22,490
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    SE Rip City
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    That quote from Travis scares me. I hope he tries to improve his shot selection. I dislike how he sometimes jacks up 20 ft jumper when it might behoove the team more if he attacked the rim or passed it to a teammate with a better shot.
     
    Darkwebs, Jan 8, 2009
    #2
  3. mgb

    mgb Over-Nite Sensation

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2008
    Messages:
    5,132
    Likes Received:
    92
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Gresham, OR
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    Here's a great pic of TO's winning shot and that looks like a great shot to me!

    [​IMG]
     
    mgb, Jan 8, 2009
    #3
  4. ¹²³

    ¹²³ ¼½¾

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2008
    Messages:
    3,466
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    Interesting.

    Who are the coaches?
     
    ¹²³, Jan 8, 2009
    #4
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,783
    Likes Received:
    27,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    He made the shot so it's hard to argue, but it scares the shit out of me that they think that.
     
    Mediocre Man, Jan 8, 2009
    #5
  6. Hank The Dwarf

    Hank The Dwarf Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2008
    Messages:
    331
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    Who else do you go to in that situation?

    Roy and Outlaw are the only players on this team that can get off their own shot any time they want. It is the right call.
     
    Hank The Dwarf, Jan 8, 2009
    #6
  7. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2008
    Messages:
    31,865
    Likes Received:
    5,785
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Commercial Real Estate
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t


    I hear ya, but I'm wondering who else I would rather have had taking that last shot last night? Especially upon seeing that picture. MY GOSH! He's a third of a body up over both defenders...like he's in the sky all alone up there! Almost Jordanesque. Wow.

    But, yeah, it seems to be a "No! No! No! YES!!!!!" type of situation with Travis.....I mean, almost ALL the time. ;)
     
    ABM, Jan 8, 2009
    #7
  8. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    8,613
    Likes Received:
    2,102
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    I don't know, someone in the game thread put it; cant live with him, cant live without him... :)

    It's true...however, if he can stop being so inconsistent then the blazers will be that much better...
     
    blue32, Jan 8, 2009
    #8
  9. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    23,216
    Likes Received:
    15,683
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t


    It shouldn't be that it scares the shit out of you that they think it...........it should scare the shit out of you that it is true.

    It's not that he is the second best player on the team, but few players have the ability to get a decent shot off
    at any time. I used Gerald Wallace as an example in a different thread, he is a better player than Travis, but at the end of the Charlotte/Boston game they were going to Felton and Augustin in that type of situation. You have to be able to drive to the basket and pull up for a jumper in that scenario.

    Even back in the "glory days" Porter IMO opinion was better at it than Clyde. (But Clyde was certainly pretty good at it too) But usually it is your PG, SG and SF who are the option. Who else for Portland right now can do that? Bayless eventually??
     
    Pinwheel1, Jan 8, 2009
    #9
  10. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,783
    Likes Received:
    27,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t



    Maybe that's it. I think Aldridge can do it too. He has done it in other games. The "Bitch" comment to the cockroach himself comes to mind.
     
    Mediocre Man, Jan 8, 2009
    #10
  11. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    45,200
    Likes Received:
    34,006
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Sales Manager
    Location:
    Cincinnati
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    So we needed another thread to say basically the same thing?
     
    julius, Jan 8, 2009
    #11
  12. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    23,216
    Likes Received:
    15,683
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t


    He can do it but not as well. Generally what happens when a C or PF gets the ball in a situation like that he gets double and triple teamed and passes the ball to someone else who takes the shot. Usually to a player that the defensive team prefers to shoot. Travis taking a 8 foot shot IMO is a better option.
     
    Pinwheel1, Jan 8, 2009
    #12
  13. RR7

    RR7 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Messages:
    18,714
    Likes Received:
    13,127
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t


    Yes, and I'm sure KingSpeed will make 4 more before the day is done.


    Got his "Clutch" glasses on.
    :roseglasses:
     
    RR7, Jan 8, 2009
    #13
  14. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    44,783
    Likes Received:
    27,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t



    By the way that shamwow guy scares the shit out me. Just a freaky looking and sounding dude
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2009
    Mediocre Man, Jan 8, 2009
    #14
  15. 1 Eye Jack

    1 Eye Jack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    2,343
    Likes Received:
    1,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Vice President for Display company
    Location:
    Albany, Oregon
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    I would prefer Rudy have the ball at the end of the game if it's not Roy. Although Travis has hit some big shots and can almost always get his shot off. Bad coaching by Curry last night. First he should have had Prince on Travis and Prince should have taken that last shot.
     
    1 Eye Jack, Jan 8, 2009
    #15
  16. STOMP

    STOMP mere fan

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Messages:
    11,466
    Likes Received:
    4,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Marin
    I think Bayless can get his own shot at will though it's probably a little early to be handing him the reigns right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see him pass up TO as a last shot go to option as he's got the quickness/strength/hops to separate for a good look and obviously has a much better handle. Options are nice!

    STOMP
     
    STOMP, Jan 8, 2009
    #16
  17. Blaze01

    Blaze01 JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2004
    Messages:
    2,106
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    I think if POR is going to rely on Outlaw taking fadeaway shots over double teams to win games...then they are not making the playoffs.....


    I mean it is great that Travis made the game winning shot last night and that he was 6-10 from the field...but it doesn't erase his poor shot selection or his piss poor defense....the guy is a black hole on offense and clueless on defense...after 6 years in the NBA.....If Pritchard is smart, it will be Travis who is dealt to clear room and more playing time for Batum and Webster.....
     
    Blaze01, Jan 8, 2009
    #17
  18. Foulzilla

    Foulzilla No Blood, No Foul.

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    305
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    I don't agree. At least this year. Rudy might be a good option in the future, but so far he's not shown enough consistency for me to want him handling the ball on the final shot (I would however be perfectly happy with him being set up with a relatively open 3 as the final shot, as thats the one area I do feel confident in him).

    While Rudy clearly has the skills to be an effective slasher, he's got the small problem that he's a rookie and thus is pretty much guaranteed to not get a call (particularly on a last play of the game time of shot). I hate that it's this way, but it is. Outlaw at least has a bit of a reputation and time spent in the league so has a chance at getting a foul called on that type of play.

    Really, I think Outlaw was probably the right number to call in this situation. I'd prefer Aldridge taking a shot generally, but it's a lot harder for him to create a good one for himself, so Outlaw is the ideal choice when Roy is out.
     
    Foulzilla, Jan 8, 2009
    #18
  19. PapaG

    PapaG Banned User BANNED

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    32,870
    Likes Received:
    291
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Tualatin, OR
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    That quote from Travis shows me why he is the best clutch shooter on the team outside of Roy.

    He's a shooter. A shooter should not have a conscience.
     
    PapaG, Jan 8, 2009
    #19
  20. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2008
    Messages:
    26,096
    Likes Received:
    9,073
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Re: Nate: "We all agreed. Travis is the best to have the ball if Brandon is not on t

    Again, it's moot b/c we won, but let's take a look.

    Travis had his number called by Nate. was basically guaranteed to shoot the shot if he wanted (as evidence by driving into a double-team to shoot it). Still, no worries. That was what the coach drew up.

    One thing that wasn't in Nate's quotes, the picture or what is on here is that he took the shot with 9 seconds left or so (clock stopped with 8.2, iirc). Someone decided, (whether Nate or Travis, idk) to give a team with Allen Iverson and Prince going 13-20 or whatever the ball down one with 8 seconds left. The 'Brian's a hater' folks only get to give the Benefit Of The Doubt to one person...either that Nate really didn't draw up a play to Travis to give them the ball with 8 seconds left, or Travis didn't really try to think on his own and start the play WAY early. Because, for all the "Travis is clutch" love, Allen Iverson is much more accomplished and more "clutch" than Travis, and IDK that giving him the ball with 8 seconds left and a timeout down one is a good recipe going forward.
     
    BrianFromWA, Jan 8, 2009
    #20
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page