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  1. Ed O

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    Nope. In fact, I believe it's correct according to Larry Coon's NBA Salary Cap FAQ. Jason Quick just isn't a good source for CBA info. :)

    Darius playing next year is much less relevant, though. Portland probably only needs the space THIS summer. They're almost certainly going to be over the cap in 2010.

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    I don't care if PDX is put in a bad light around the league, and I think that you are overstating that anyhow. Gilbert's pissed because his star player/franchise will be gone by the end of next year. I bet he wishes he could do something, heck ANYTHING, to the Knicks or Nets pre-emptively. Had he the proper perspective, he'd likely agree with the sustance of the email.
     
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    I see other teams taking offense to this and it might hurt them in making trades....and like I've stated before...there will be money spend in court and lost in the settlement if Miles sues them for hindering his opportunity to get employment
     
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    Good point . . . didn't think about that.

    If Allen doesn't care about 9 mil (or 80% of it), I don't care what happens to Miles next year.
     
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    Quick correct, two posters who bash him (not meaning you) incorrect. Hilarious.



    That's a good point.
     
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    Miles I think wants to play, all the other teams in the NBA know he's done. So this issue does come down to just sticking it to the Blazers. Miles will not be on any team next year and we all know it. If this is the case than the merit of signing him is completely in question.

    How else can one look at it? If this is allowed it will open a very ugly time in the NBA!
     
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    Neither had I. See KMD, we agree! And it's Ed O. that made it all happen. :ghoti:
     
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    By 2010 he comes off the books.
     
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    I'll back off and edit my response . . . papa we have battled before (politics) and been all good afterwards. Hope the same here.

    So many posts in this thread, you might have missed it but I am being emotional about this topic because I experienced being threaten on a business level . . . obviously small potatoes compared to this, but it does boil my blood again . . . and that was about 3 years ago.
     
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    regardless of if you think some teams think he's done or not....they had no right to put out these threats they can't legallly back, which make it harder for him to find employment.
     
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    The amount of money spent on a potential Miles lawsuit would be money well spent IF the Blazers somehow retained their cap space. I guarantee it would be worth the team spending a few hundred thousand on legal fees and then treble damages for hindering his ability to be employed (let's say that's 1.5m at three times half of a year's minimum salary).

    Not that it's my money, and not that $2m is irrelevant, but if Portland could secure that cap space I'm sure they'd do it. This is, after all, a franchise that's spent millions of dollars to pay for first rounders that are used on Ints that might never come to the NBA. It also would reduce the amount of luxury tax that Portland would have to pay... so it'd more than pay for itself.

    As for other teams not trading with them... I don't buy it. Even if a team is mad at the Blazers, why would they make what would otherwise be a good trade just to stick it to Portland?

    The Celtics and the Grizzlies can spend some money knowing that they're going to get a chunk of the redistributed over-luxury-tax money that Portland will owe.

    But if the Grizzlies could make a trade with Portland that makes sense for Memphis? I'm sure they'd do it in a heartbeat irrespective of the email or of the Miles situation altogether.

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    Well there you go :)

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    if a team does screw the blazers...can't wait until Pritch's revenge......
     
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    People and companies do this thing all the time.

    The email might chill the employment opportunities for Miles, but unless he has actual damages to show (i.e., no contract to sign) I doubt he has any kind of case.

    And, as I pointed out above, I'm sure the Blazers would be happy to pay him some money to go away.

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    I thought I read this type of email was a first in the NBA.
     
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    I've said this before, jokingly, but I am totally serious now:

    Portland should have claimed Darius on waivers.

    They should have nabbed him after Memphis waived him and they should have had him sit on the bench, inactive, for the rest of the year.

    Once he's cleared waivers, he can decide where he wants to sign... meaning NOT Portland.

    If every other team (or at least two) can claim that he's good enough to take a look at, Portland certainly should have been able to avail themselves of the same thing.

    Hell... the case is MORE easily made now that he's able to help (in the right circumstances) than when Boston or Memphis gave him a shot.

    That Darius might only get into one more game the rest of the year? That would be tragic but he just wasn't QUITE able to contribute as an active player in two games. Tough break.

    But, oh, we get to keep the cap space...

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  18. Ed O

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    This whole situation is unique.

    I can guarantee you, though, that cease and desist letters (often with little or no legal foundation) are sent out all the time.

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    That's actually a very good point I hadn't thought of, and I'm sure that's a big part of what the NBA and the union are going to be discussing today. Who's to say Boston, Memphis and 'the next team' didn't work together, each paying their share, with those ten game contracts, to get Miles to that ten game mark, which would in turn take money from Portland and put it back in their own wallets. Whether or not that was the case here, it could be the case next time, and it does seem pretty problematic.

    I can definitely understand Portlands frustrations here, I just don't think this was a very intelligent/productive move.
     
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    Or you don't know whats going on, maybe? The Blazers don't care if he is signed. They said they have knowledge that some teams want to sign Miles for one reason, to screw up Portlands cap space. Not to help their team, or because he is the best player they can get.

    That is what the letter was saying. Don't forget, the league and the players union said he wasn't fit to play, not portland.
     
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