Grizzlies sign F Miles to second 10-day contract

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  1. Denny Crane

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    At some point, Portland has to take responsibilities for its actions. Specifically, for signing Miles to such a big contract in the first place. The Knicks are eating Marbury's contract even though he's not playing, and Eddie Curry's, too. Portland shouldn't be somehow immune to this kind of thing.

    Given Miles' injury history, there's no reason another team that takes a shot with him shouldn't be cautious. The 10 day contracts are within that spirit.
     
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    I agree, DC. And good for Memphis and Darius, hope it works out well and he can get a permanent home.
     
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    Great post. Points to you, my friend!
     
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    Exactly right. Darius Miles was washed up before the surgery, and he's even more washed up now. He'll be out of the NBA very soon, in my opinion.
     
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    like i said we shoulda just kept him and had a large expiring next year, or played him hard in practice till his knees turned to dust. or had him medically retired at the end of this season with less than 10 games left.
     
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    Nah, he's a cancer and he would have corrupted the team. It's much better to be rid of him and bite the bullet financially.
     
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    What are the odds that Memphis guarantees him for the rest of the season next Thursday?

    A second 10-day contract means nothing.
     
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    Thus far, the only things that have happened to Darius are that he's played some garbage minutes with inconsistent production on a losing team, all the while on the worst contract available to him at the time.

    Portland offered to guarantee his contract for the rest of the year. What if Memphis let's Darius go again and no other teams pick him up? All that came out of it is Portland getting screwed. Chris Wallace overplayed his hand when he was gushing about Miles in the Oregonian, saying how he was playing better than Gay and Mayo. Really Chris? Is that why he's playing scrub minutes on a 10-day contract?

    This is not over yet unless Memphis guarantees him, and even then I feel the Blazers have a legitimate complaint. I posted it repeatedly, but the key is the NBA not allowing the Blazers to claim a player. I've asked for any rule that precludes it, but the closest was a clause that talked about TRADES not circumventing the cap, and nothing about a player who is not the property of any team when signed to a contract. The NBA put the Blazers at a competitive disadvantage compared to the other 29 teams by not allowing them to claim Miles, regardless of any intent they assumed.
     
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    The correct term to use is medical retirement, not career ending injury. Bender, MacCulloch, and Mobley all retired. Darius Miles did not.

    The 10 game rule is not a loophole. It is how the process is supposed to work if a player disagrees with the medical decision, and decides not to retire. If a player truly has a condition that would require him to medically retire, it would debilitate him within 10 games. If not, then that injury wasn't enough to require a medical retirement, and thus no exception for medical retirement would be warranted.
     
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    That's not it. I gave you the full text to the portion of the CBA. It said transactions, not trades. Claiming a player off waivers is a transaction, so the CBA covers it.
     
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    Are you intentionally this loose with the facts, or do you just lie to help your case? Miles signed the appropriate NBA retirement paperwork. That's what activated this clause of the CBA after the doctors' made their diagnosis.
     
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    Nope. It said trades specifically. I've already addressed it.

    Again, it says nothing about disallowing a player the right to a guaranteed contract, or a team the right to claim a player that no other team wants to claim.
     
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    you quoted Coon's salary cap faq, not the CBA, thus why you don't see the word transactions.
     
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    A guaranteed contract means nothing.

    If the Grizzlies ONLY wanted to screw the Blazers, they would not have signed him to another 10 days.

    The Blazers had no case before, and now they have even less of a case... if that were possible.

    Ed O.
     
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    Your opinion is not fact. The NBA denied Miles a guaranteed contract. If he is cut by the Grizz and not picked up anywhere else, I hope Darius sues the NBA as well.

    A guaranteed contract also means Memphis would end up a net-negative on the Miles scheme. Instead, a few 10-days and the rest is profit from Paul Allen. Not bad...
     
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    There are some cynical ass fans in here...jesus

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    What is wrong with being cynical? Until Memphis signs Miles to a guaranteed deal, they still stand to profit handsomely from the luxury tax implications. Is that a false statement?
     
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    Answer lies within the question :sigh:

    Wait you have me confused on this...How is MEM gonna profit from this?

    Sorry, Im not getting this...If you already explained it within this thread tell me what post number

    edit:no you didnt, please explain if you care to
     
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    They stand to gain almost an extra $300k from the extra money Paul Allen has to pay toward the luxury tax because of Miles going back on the books. That money is typically redistributed to teams, and some of it goes to the league.

    Signing Miles to a guaranteed contract will mean Memphis is on the hook for nearly half of the veteran's minimum for the rest of the year, which is a net-negative to the money they would receive by playing him garbage minutes and then letting him go after the next 10-day deal.

    Wanna take bets on what they're going to do? :dunno:

    I don't understand why I am attacked for thinking about this in this forum. It seems like a shrewd (and borderline unethical) move by Memphis to me if they don't sign Miles.
     
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    Memphis has nothing to gain financially when signing Miles to another 10 day contract . . . Miles has already played 10 games.

    Bet, bet, did someone say bet . . . I'm in . . . I don't know what we are betting, but I need a adrenaline fix. :D
     

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