Brandon Roy > Kobe Bryant

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  1. KingSpeed

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    Says PER:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holl.../insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics

    1. LeBron James
    2. Chris Paul
    3. Dwyane Wade
    4. Dwight Howard
    5. Tim Duncan
    6. Brandon Roy
    7. Carlos Boozer
    8. Kobe Bryant
    9. Dirk Nowitzki
    10. Chris Bosh
    44. LaMarcus Aldridge

    I still have to pinch myself. I can't believe we FINALLY have a player of that high regard. Top 6 player in the league? We haven't had one in YEARS. I keep thinking only we like him because he's a Blazer but he's actually an elite player says the formula. I love it. Better than Kobe.

    Go Blazers
     
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    Whoa! It's weird to see Roy ranked with those elite players. I don't know if many people consider him a top 10 player, but he is definitely irreplaceable on our team. We would be a lottery team without Roy, I would think.

    PER doesn't really prove that Roy is better than Kobe, but I guess you could use it as a piece of evidence if you were trying to make that argument. But Boozer is ranked ahead of Kobe, so PER is obviously not perfect in regards to quantifying players.
     
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    Boozer, when he plays, is pretty damn good. We're all lucky he didn't stay in Cleveland or we'd never have a chance to win the championship.
     
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    Look, Kobe Bryant is up there with Mao, Stalin, Hitler and Roy Cohn, but there's no way Brandon's better. If anything, it shows the flaw in the PER system.
     
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    A bunch of Clipper season ticket holders in the third row center kept saying that Brandon was just like Kobe, except he wasn't an asshole. I thought that was pretty funny.
     
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    It shows that Roy is dominating the ball more than Kobe this year. Kobe is deferring to his teammates more than ever.
     
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    LOL! I actually admire Clipper fans. They could hop on the glamour bandwagon, but instead choose to suffer. There's something noble in that.
     
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    Yeah, we talked to several of them. They were all pretty cool--except for a few Laker fan wannabes who couldn't afford tickets to the Laker game, so they show up to thrash on the Clips.
     
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    Reep, which one are you in the photos with the LA Blazer fans linked here?
     
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    One of the Clippers' announcers said he would include Roy among a group of about 5 players that he thought you could build a team around.
     
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    The Clips' announcers were VERY complimentary of Roy.
     
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    In the second photo, I'm on the bottom right in the red jersey with the very large forhead. I like to think of it as extra brain space. Xericx took some photos at half time that will get posted that should be better of the S2 guys.
     
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    Ah yes, I share the same affliction. Some people are born with foreheads; we're lucky enough to have fiveheads.:cheers:
     
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    They were very complimentary of the entire Portland team. I was impressed with them. A couple of classy guys, for sure.
     
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    Kobe's declined a bit off his peak of a couple of years ago, so it's conceivable that Roy has caught him, though I'm still a little skeptical. Roy has been unbelievably good this season. I want to see if he can keep it up.

    But Kobe really shouldn't be mentioned with Lebron James anymore. It was competitive a couple of years ago, but Kobe has dropped off a bit and LeBron has managed to get even better. James is now the clear-cut #1, and I'd say Chris Paul is probably the second-best player in the NBA.

    So I guess we can make a final call on who will be better, Jarret Jack or Chris Paul? ;)
     
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    They're both averaging 5.2 assists per game, Kobe's assists are down from a year ago, and Kobe shoots more shots per game than Roy... to summarize, you're wrong in every way possible.
     
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    This thread is silly, and many of the comments are as well. LBJ and Roy play on teams that suck
    without them (i.e. borderline nonplayoff teams), so they have to do everything themselves. Kobe
    doesn't, he can pick his spots, and take over in the 4th if need be. I really really really really don't
    like Kobe, but you can't look at these simple stats and really come to a meaningful conclusion.

    I absolutely adore Roy, but the truth is that he still doesn't bring it every night.
     

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