Is Andrew Bynum a dirty player? You make the call. He threw an elbow at Gerald Wallace as Wallace was driving to the basket, and in the video you can see Wallace writhing on the court in pain after getting hit. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/breaking/story/500489.html" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow [youtubehd]<object width="480" height="295"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0q2cBYKvYJw&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0q2cBYKvYJw&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="295"></embed></object>[/youtubehd]
Has he injured other players with something along these lines? I haven't watched the video (youtube is blocked at work)...maybe it's a dirty play, but if this is the first time, I wouldn't call him a dirty player
Looks to me like he was just trying to prevent a basket. It just happened to turn out worse than it should of been.
I hate all Lakers, and Bynum more than most. But this is no evidence that he's a dirty player. I don't see any intent to hurt. He was out of position and Wallace moved faster than Bynum thought he would. I even get the impression that Bynum felt bad immediately afterwards. He didn't do the turning-his-back and walking-way thing that NBA players seem to do when they've intentionally taken someone out.
I don't think he was intentionally injuring him, I think he just meant to give a hard foul. Was certainly a flagrant, but I think dirty implies intent to injure. I also don't recall Bynum doing things like this in the past, so am willing to assume the best at this point. Real shame for Wallace however, hope it's not as bad as it sounds.
give me a break. Bynum definitely delivered a hard foul, and was certainly a flagrant 1, but it was hardly a dirty play, just unfortunate in the results ... hell I'd be thrilled if Greg delivered a few licks like that once in awhile (sort of like he did to Ray Allen). -- minus the collapsed lung and broken ribs of course
It was Bynum's wrapping up of Greg Oden in the season opener that lead to his foot injury, another play where he was beat and instead of going for the ball he just went after the player's body. Both plays were borderline dirty, and if he keeps injuring other players I hope the league hands down a fine/suspension that will get him to pull his head out of his ass. I think 1 game and a hefty fine for the hit on Wallace is enough for now though.
I don't know. I watched the game and specifically remember the Lakers (Kobe & Bynum in particular) looking a little 'annoyed' directly before this foul occurred. I'd say emotions were running high. Since it's an isolated incident I won't label him a dirty player, but it was most certaintly a dirty play and he had some intentions behind it, but I don't think he was trying to hurt him as bad as he did. Doesn't matter, it was still dirty.
Oden fell on Fisher's foot. Bynum is not a dirty player, and they weren't dirty plays. He was just trying to prevent a basket with a hard foul, something that all centers do from time to time. I guess Greg Oden's wrap up foul on Ray Allen was also borderline dirty, eh? It's just unfortunate that players got hurt on these specific plays. Bynum definitely deserved the flagrant though.
No, a dirty play is like when Kevin Love looked straight at a guy and then drove his elbow through his face. That is a dirty play.
ahh you guys are probably right; hell if the roles were reversed and oden was the person that chucked that elbow into GW's side I'd probably tell GW to grow a set. BUT, these are the Lakers were talking about fella's, they are our nemesis, our rivals, our most hated opponents....
Oden wasn't anywhere near falling on Fisher's foot when he came down with that offensive rebound against the Lakers, then instead of trying to block or defend Oden's shot Bynum wrapped him up and dragged Oden to the floor from behind, it was when Oden was stumbling/falling backwards that he stepped on Fisher's foot and was injured. And Oden's foul on Ray Allen was not only just a bump with his body that Allen exaggerated, but it was also a legitimate basketball play. He was trying to stop Allen from driving baseline and he was moving his feet with his hands in the air, he didn't elbow him or wrap him up and tackle him.
Oden had the ball, and was going to put it in the basket. Bynum couldn't stop him, so he fouled him. Are you seriously trying to argue that Bynum wanted to injure Oden? And Oden's foul on Allen was, in essence the same as the Bynum foul on Oden. Oden realized he was beat on the play, so he wanted to get his money's worth with his foul (he even admitted this), which is why he wrapped up Allen and wouldn't give him the continuation. Your post just seems to be filled with biased Laker hate. If you honestly think that Bynum was TRYING to injure ANY of the players he fouled, then I have nothing more to say to you.
