Outlaw Unexpendable?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well, it's been a while, but I thought Tell went to the hole a bit more than Nic does, but that could be attributed to confidence.
     
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    the 6th man award is about scoring as far as I can tell... what winner of the award wasn't an instant offense type?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Sixth_Man_of_the_Year_Award

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    Przy plays Turiaf's role on this team. The bench is now a strength on this team; if anything, the starting SF and PG positions need improvement.
     
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    Which back-up PF in the league is stopping David West? That's a starter's job IMO, although Przy shut West down in the 4th quarter.
     
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    Turiaf pretty much handled him in the Warriors win over the Hornets.
     
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    DUB Da, da da, da dah!

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    I agree.

    I didn't say 50/50 split. :wink:
     
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    maybe none, but that won't make him the 6th man winner. Fair or not, it's always been a scorer's award

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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Turiaf isn't leaving GS. He's one of the players that give 100% effort on offense and defense. He'd be one of the last players moved.

    Jason Maxiell is probably available with the glut of PFs that they have in Detroit. His game is very similar to Turiaf's and it would probably only take Outlaw to get him.
     
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    Przy did that tonight, plus Joel

    West also went for 24/7 this year in a Golden State loss in which Turiaf played 24 minutes and didn't score. Also, West had 12 points, 15 rebounds, and 4 assist in the loss to GS, while Turiaf went for 4 points, 11 rebounds, and 5 fouls. A 12/15 game isn't bad IMO. Peja sucked in that game; that was why New Orleans lost.

    I just don't see Turiaf getting minutes on the Blazers. He is a bench player with limited skills for the Warriors. He's certainly not worth getting rid of Travis Outlaw for in a head-to-head deal. :dunno:
     
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    There's always a first time! :cheers:
     
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    5-16 from the field isn't exactly a banner day for West.

    http://www.nba.com/games/20090130/GSWNOH/boxscore.html
     
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    First of all, Outlaw for Maxiell is a steal for Detroit. Secondly, Maxiell makes half of Outlaw in terms of contract, so Detroit would have to add to the deal, which they would have to do anyhow even in fantasyland to make the deal.

    Maxiell is getting garbage minutes for a sinking Detroit team and can't shoot outside of a lay-up. Sometimes I just scratch my head and chuckle at some of the proposals I see on this board.
     
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    15 rebounds is a banner day for him. If scoring is what matters to you in terms of assessing a player's worth in a game, then why get rid of Outlaw?
     
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    I know you love Outlaw, but Maxiell is exactly what the Blazers need. He's not playing much this season, but that has more to do with Detroit's rotation being completely screwed than his skill. He signed an extension this off season for a reason.

    Max+Herrman works. We can cut Herrman.
     
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    It's posts like this that make me block you dude. 15 rebounds is a great number for west, but do you think he was happy shooting 5-16? If you WATCHED the game, which I did, you would have seen that Turiaf bothered West throughout the game. He altered his shot, he kept him out of the paint on offense, and he pretty much made him a non-factor in terms of scoring. The Hornets lost.

    My point is, it's nice to have someone who comes off the bench and plays physical defense against a guy like Turiaf. I'm not saying they shut him down, but they definitely cause him some trouble.
     
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    Maxiell is a PG who can defend the perimeter?
     
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    A hard-nosed backup power forward who will play great defense and get hustle points.
     
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    I just don't agree with your take on Turiaf. No need to block me for that, is there? I offered up some stats that show West had an impact on the game. I see that game as more of an outlier than anything, and Turiaf still almost fouled out of it.

    I don't understand the ignore stuff. I can handle that people don't agree with all of my opinions, but I don't think that it means they don't "know basketball" if they don't think like me. Yet I won't block you or anyone, Nate. :dunno:
     

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