"Poor economy influencing trade decisions"

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    According to David Aldridge:

    Is Raef now more valuable than ever?
     
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    I do think the RLEC is more valuable then we even think in this economy. I just think even PA wouldn't mind saving the money uless we can get the player that will really make a difference this year and beyond. So, far most of the rumors wouldn't help us that much IMO.
     
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    Pocket change... Didn't Paul Allen lose like $20 billion in one year after the dot-com bubble burst? Granted, it was only half of his net wealth.
     
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    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    I'm thinking along the same lines. PA has probably lost more than the average owner (given his wealth). Now he is in a position that he can lose more, but with three big contracts coming up and still paying Francis' salary this season, I can see even a PA enjoying Raef's contract being paid by insurance and not looking to trade that benefit.
     
  5. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    I think that 5M or so being paid by insurance for the rest of the year is borderline insignificant to PA. Trading an 11M-to-14M salary (that you'll end up paying 5-7M for for the rest of the year---double if luxury taxed) for about 1M payroll hit for Raef could save someone like Kohl or Pollin or Sarver up to 13M...plus the inevitable "cash consideration" 3M that we'll be sending along.

    We have 50 or so straight sellouts, to the point that the Blazers feel comfortable removing any ticket discounts and raising prices 7%. That's not the case in SAC, PHX, MIL, MIA, WAS, etc. I think PA a) has the cash to ride out the "downturn", b) has the makings of a team that can be really good for a really long time, and c) already keeps fannies in the seats. I don't think he's worried about 5M of insurance payments or his 7M or so of cap space in July.
     
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    Why is no one talking about Chandler? Pryz, Raefs contract and pieces for Chandler? You may hate him but you have to admit he's an upgrade over Pryz and gives us a hell of a rotation in Oden, LMA and Chandler. Not exactly a point of need but might be to cheap to pass up. Would be ironic to trade Pryz for Chandler.........
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    The economy effects Paul just like the rest of us I'm sure. But he loves his Blazers!
     
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    JFizzleRaider Yeast Lords Global Moderator

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    I'm positive Chandler wouldn't enjoy being a backup
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Hmmmm. Can Chandler play any power forward? He's actually taller than Przybilla, I believe, but he's always struck me as a little more nimble.

    Man, that'd be tough to do. I don't really get emotionally attached to many players, and particularly not to role players. But Przybilla is kind of a special case--he's that tough guy who's been around from the ugly days who never ever quit, and you'd like to see his dedication rewarded.
     
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    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Not in terms of his Blazers business, it doesn't.

    His payroll has been fixed and calculable for a while. He's sold out every game for a year and a half. He's able to increase revenue at a time when everyone else is losing fan interest and ability to buy seats. He's getting more TV deals and ad revenue than he was 2-3 years ago.

    That's NOT the model the rest of us (or the league) are operating under. Forget his billions. His team is profitable, and only getting more so.
     
  11. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I know this point will piss people off, but this is where the Comcast deal is so great. It's $13MM annually for a decade. I think the FOXSports deal was less than half of that. It gives PA more room to either pay the luxury tax or absorb another large salary.

    From what I've heard (not from the Blazers, but from a buddy who works for another team) is that the price to acquire RLEC is REALLY high, much higher than most people (including me) had assumed.
     
  12. Rastapopoulos

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    Like, how high? Can we measure it in Dengs?
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    LOL! That's a great unit of measurement. I have no idea what the actual value is, only that KP is asking A LOT to acquire it.
     
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    $1 billion is NOT pocket change. To anyone. Ever.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Tell that to Congress. :angry:
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Sounds like KP is a really smart negotiator. Start high and work down from there.

    Maybe KP is seriously considering holding onto the contract becuase he still has decent FA targets this summer? Even with "only" a possible fifteen million in cap room, restricted free agents like Josh Childress and Ramon Sessions should be attainable through either outright contract offers that exceed their teams' ability to match, or sign and trades can probably be worked out.

    I hope a really nice trade happens for the Blazers before the deadline, but there are still some pretty decent options come this off-season.
     
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    andalusian Season - Restarted

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    Even without free-agents - the Blazers, by being under the cap can facilitate some trades with cheap assets for big-time salaries even if they do not have the entire cap free for these salaries.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Right, I forgot to mention lopsided trades and not having to match salary ... I tend to think that's where KP's real genius gets exercised anyway -- draft day deals, where he's had time to formulate a plan and has additional assets to play with (purchased picks, etc.)
     
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    Was the sarcasm not obvious?
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hmm, if Phoenix is really motivated almost entirely by money, I'm dazzled by the prospects. Get Stoudemire for little more than huge cash savings to Phoenix (Portland can offer a LOT of expiring money in RLEC, Frye, Diogu) and then swing Stoudemire to another team in a talent-for-talent swap for a small forward or point guard. With Stoudemire to offer, suddenly players like Devin Harris becoming realistic.
     

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