Knicks Blog says we are still after Andre Miller and thinks we make a deal

We’re still very much hearing that Andre Miller is in the mix to become a Blazer. The Blazers have been a bit schizophrenic here regarding trades. Do they make a move or not? I’m hearing yes, but we’ll find out soon enough.

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Miller? Yawn.

Doesn't make us much better on defense.

Can't shoot.

Would be rendered completely useless at the end of games when we put the ball in Brandon's hands. Normally, we space the floor with the others on the floor, but Miller is zero threat to hit an outside shot so we'd basically be playing 4-on-5 when we had the ball.

I doubt this guy knows what he's talking about, but I'd hate a deal to bring in Andre Miller.

-Pop

 

i disagree, i think he makes alot better on defense. not saying he is first team defense but anybody is better than what we have now(sergio, blake)

 

Not a great shooter, getting up there in age...but definitely an underated PG....

Yes, he would make this team significantly better...

 

OK well that's not exactly a ringing endorsement of the guy.

Besides, he makes $10 million and is in the last year of his contract. Explain to me who we trade to Philly for him and why Philly makes that deal.

If anything, the Sixers are looking to shed salary at this point, not take more on.

-Pop

 

I'd like a deal that gets us Miller, provided we don't give up too much. Think about it: who have been the players to really make a difference to the team that acquires them by trade in the last few years?

* Nash, obviously. He completely transformed that Phoenix team.
* Billups this season, clearly.
* Devin Harris for NJ, apparently.
* Jason Kidd for NJ previously (two trips to the finals!)
* Sam Cassell for Minny and then the Clippers
* Derek Fisher for the Lakers (look it up!)

All PGs. Miller also made a big difference to Denver and then Philly. (He and Billups should both have an asterisk, though, because you can't discount the effect of simply dumping AI.)
PGs by their very nature can have the most effective veteran influence. We could do with some veteran influence. We need calming down and directing on the floor. Miller's personality and ego is not such that it would put anyone's noses out of joint, but I think he can have a good effect. We have a LOT of talent, we just need to get it working together. A good PG knows that and can (for example) make sure that Oden gets the ball more than he is, but that the other players get the ball enough so that they don't feel cheated and stop trying.
And hey, if he's useless at the end of games THEN PUT IN A SHOOTER INSTEAD. That's not that hard. Alternatively, put the ball in HIS hands and make Brandon a shooter. He's pretty good at that, too.

 

AMAZING PEOPLE DONT GET THIS...

WE NEED VETS!!! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

Miller fits perfectly at PG...for now. Hes a better defender then blake and sergio and bayless. Playoffs are halfcourt goes and miller is a floor general. he cant tell outlaw where to go...hopefully out of portland

 

"Baxter, you're so wise. You're like a minature Buddah, covered with hair."

--Ron Burgundy

 

Nobody has answered my question yet ... who (that we'd be willing to part with) does Philly take for Miller and why do they do it? Usually if you are giving up an expiring contract, you want someone who is going to make you better in the short and or long-term.

Philly knows they aren't competing this year for a playoff run, so they're likely looking to build on their young core of guys like Iguodala, Young and Dalembert.

It amazes me how myopic fans can be, without even looking at both sides of the deal.

-Pop

 

because portland doesn't actually need vets.

 

How about this? Get a younger, cheaper PG to replace Miller, plus two players who might help, and if they don't, their contracts expire.

Or, if Philly's in financial trouble, and is offering Miller only on the condition that either Dalembert or Brand be taken off their books, enter RLEC.

 

At least, not since Zach left town along with a lot of Portland's dog fighting business.

 

I guess.

I just don't see Philly making that deal just to bring in Steve Blake for an additional year.

I think they'd love guys like Jerryd Bayless or Rudy, and I don't think we're giving those kinds of players up.

-Pop

 

And why the fuck would Portland offer them? Andre Miller is a free agent after this season. No way Portland gives up Rudy/Bayless or even Blake for a half season rental of Miller.

 

I agree with Mixum.


well, maybe except for the Outlaw dig.

If its easy and painless to do so, Miller would be great to have as a floor general. I've been pushing to acquire him for about 3-4 seasons now.

 

That's exactly what I was saying. Re-read my posts.

-Pop

 

I wouldn't trade much of value for him. If anything, I'd look into signing him in the off-season, if Portland can't find a younger player to use the money on.

 

I don't know what you are talking about. Philly is 7th seed as we speak and have won 13 of their last 17.
Sounds like a playoff run to me.

 

Fair question. The story I read a few weeks back, was that they would seriously consider something along the lines of RLEC and future draft picks. That way, they would keep the advantage of the expiring contract, and add something for the future.

Obviously, the deal doesn't fly unless Portland thinks Miller is willing to re-sign at a more reasonable salary to play vet mentor to a young team.