NBA Dress Code - 3 Years Later (ESPN Bucher)

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    The workplace is the court. Whether its 'too much' for one of these guys to wear a suit while at a press conference is completely irrelevant. Using the 'but they make so much money!' argument is ridiculous.
     
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    The time they enter the workplace (arena) until the time they leave the workplace seems well within Stern's purview to regulate.
     
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    Hell, they even make high schoolers dress up in a collared shirt and nice pants to schools on game days. These guys get paid millions and should look professional. I see nothing wrong with it. It's Stern's product. He's the boss and can enforce a dress code if he wants.
     
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    Do teams negotiate contracts and fill out their rosters based on who looks the best in the press room?
     
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    Do players get paid to walk into the arena? No. They get paid to play ball. Unless you are claiming that NBA players are actors and their entry into the arena is some kind of play, then the NBA has no business telling them they have to spend hundreds of thousands of their own money (which they are not reimbursed for) on high end clothing that David Stern likely gets a kick back on.
     
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    The workplace is the court, that's where they earn their paycheck.
     
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    This might be a first, but I agree with Karl Malone's Elbows. Stern is afraid that NBA players will dress like "gangsta thugs," scaring off the NBA's ridiculously white upper middle class fan base.
     
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    I work in a lab, so I don't have any typical dress codes, but I have to wear masks, goggles, lab coat, etc. when I work with certain substances. But, when ever there is a speaker or symposium that I am going to attend, I, and everyone there, dresses in business casual. All races, all nationalities. But there is no code dictating specific attire. In the NBA, there would not have been required attire if the players used common sense to dress appropriately when interacting with cameras/press. The NBA has an image it needs to tend to in order to generate money. If the players are not going to do it on their own, it was the responsibility of Stern to impose a dress code in order to protect all the NBA stakeholders.
     
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    :crazy: comparing your job to that of an NBA players.
     
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    Personally I disagree JE, though if that's your take I understand your opinion better.

    Their "Paycheck" is earned from their contract, which is with a team and under the provisions of the CBA. Stern has purview over arena operations (playing music during game play, court decals, ticket levies, etc.). He also has purview over media relations (fining people for talking about refereeing, etc.). He also has purview over abilities of referees to do as they wish off the court (no gambling, etc.). Having purview of the players' actions during the time they're at the arena is neither unamerican or racist, and IMO is in keeping with many corporate environments.
     
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    Anyone who's turned on/off from a league based on the players' wardrobe is a dipshit.
     
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    Think of the arena as the office building and the court as their office. I don't wear a jumpsuit into work and then change once I get into the office. And no, their paychecks are completely relevent. Nobody's forcing them to buy thousand dollar suits, just to look nice. Most of the young guys want to now anyways. It's called looking professional.
     
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    Why are we comparing NBA basketball to corporate environments?
     
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    You're right, it's crazy. At my job I didn't sign a contract stating I would be under the collectively-bargained rules of another entity during the time my guaranteed contract ran for.

    My last job, though, I did. It was the military.
     
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    Then what's your problem with their current wardrobe? Are you calling yourself a dipshit?
     
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    The "make so much money" argument is not ridiculous. Jobs can ask many things of an employee, and if the employee does not agree, he can leave. But the more the job pays, the less likely the employee will leave.

    If I was asked to shovel poop for 8 hours a day for 20K a year, there is no way I would do it. But, if I was offer for 2mil, I would scoop that poop and smile as I did it.
     
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    Because Elbows stated that having dress codes in the workplace was unamerican and racist. You then said that, except for the race thing, you agreed. Many of the others seem to disagree, and are posting why.
     
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    Do CEO's get paid to dress well? No. They are paid to take care of the company they work for, and dress professionally is one of many additional expectations.

    JE, explain to me how press conferences are irrelevant to the NBA's business and their ability to reach out to their fans?
     
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    Why are we comparing the NBA to normal office jobs? THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, THEY ARE NOT EVEN SIMILAR. Using analogies like this to justify a retarded dress code rule is a dumb argument.

    If they WANT to do it, then good for them. But FORCING them to do it is just a shit move.
     
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    An NBA players contract dictates that they are not allowed to do certain things like ski, ride motorcycles, skydive, etc. Those things don't happen on the court, but it is part of a contract. To think their contract only covers them when they are on the court is just stupid. Are they paid to play basketball? Yes. But, they are also paid as representatives of their basketball team. Why the requirement to make public appearances each year?
     
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