NBA Dress Code - 3 Years Later (ESPN Bucher)

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  1. BrianFromWA

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    I apologize. It was not my intention to lie. Show me what I missed? Only in the NBA is it racist and unamerican, but in other american places of work it's ok?
     
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    Good point. Stern does not want players to tarnish the NBA image, it has nothing to do with "looking black"
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    FINEZ???

    Because they're not sitting in cubicles, and during their actual 'work' they are wearing basketball uniforms.
     
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    If my belief is correct, I agree with you. My post shouldn't be viewed as an endorsement of Stern's decision. Quite the opposite.
     
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    Wasn't taken as agreement with Stern.
     
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    I love how an 18 year-old with (likely) literally zero experience in the world of business has everybody so fired up. When I was 18, I would have probably been against this dress-code as well. At almost twice that age, I now understand why it was done. Not worth getting upset about IMO, and Stern and the owners own the teams, so they set the rules. If the players don't like it, they don't have to play in the NBA.
     
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    Quite possibly. This is why I put "looking black" and similar terms in quotation marks. It's a style that has become associated with inner city black youth, but is far from being constrained just to them or being the style of all blacks in the inner city.
     
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    That's what I'm saying. :) NBA players also aren't flipping burgers, or shooting guns, or making cars, or playing with test tubes, or performing surgery. Comparing them to that is not what I was doing. What I WAS doing was asking what makes the NBA different from any other organization that pays employees? Employers have the ability to set dress codes. What makes the NBA different?

    During their "work" they are in the "workplace", which Stern has defined as the arena. Webster, as a team member under contract and on the Inactive List, must abide by the dress code. He is physically unallowed from going onto the "court" as a "place of work", but still must follow the dress code.

    Coaches, also, must abide the dress code.
     
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    Our guys are all pretty presentable. BRoy and Trav are probably the most casual. It's funny cause Rudy and Serg dress like some Euro Trash rock group.
     
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    I've done taxes professionally and what you just posted doesn't make any sense nor is it relevant to this discussion. NBA players cannot claim the clothes they wear on their taxes. Sorry.

    :crazy: you comparing your job to that of an NBA players.

    Give me a break. This claim is beyond ridiculous. You do realize that NBA players don't wear the same size clothes as you right? Try finding a suit at Macy's for $300 that fits Oden, Pryz or LMA. You do realize that clothes for tall people costs significantly more don't you? And even more amusing is you think an NBA player could get away with wearing a cheap suit to begin with.
     
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    http://www.nba.com/news/player_dress_code_051017.html

    I'm still trying to figure out what is racist and unamerican about this.
     
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    I know they can't claim their clothes, because they are not uniforms. You were claiming they were being forced to wear a uniform, which is not true.

    Let me ask you this, do you think the owner of my company is equally as wrong as stern to require that I dress well at my job even though it doesn't give me any more knowledge or skills to do the job better?
     
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    They are being forced to wear white people clothes. You don't understand that because you're white and live in a state with a tiny percentage of other races. You don't understand that there is nothing better or more presentable about the NBA approved clothes, other then the racist stigma. The NBA changed the rules costing workers more and did not reimburse the workers for their costs.

    This rule is nothing more than white people telling black people that the way they dress doesn't look good and they need to dress like successful white people.
     
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    There isn't. It's just strong buzzwords to try to support an opinion. The funny thing is, it's all so hypocritical.
     
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    I don't think anyone is saying the dress code is literally racist (after all, there's a dress code on the court...playing uniforms). The question is whether the motivation for making the rule had racial considerations. My own belief is that it did; an attempt to quash what is seen as ghetto black style which is perceived to be very popular in the game of basketball and is perceived to be threatening to a large segment of white, mainstream viewers.

    If that is true, the motivation for instituting the rule could fairly be characterized as racist, in my opinion. Obviously, none of us can prove what is in Stern's head, so it remains the subject of speculation.
     
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    The player's are making millions upon millions of dollars and need to act and dress accordingly. Specially when they are out in the community assisting the lives of people.

    I would hate to see one of our guys get shot because poor ol' grandma thought T-Law was a gang-banger.

    It's sad to say that, but the image of some criminals directly mirror what some of the NBA players were wearing before the dress-code, and still do of course in their free time.
     
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    Of the 3 people against the rule that are posting on here, you seem to understand the big picture of things the best.

    However, to assume someone is making a decision based on racial motivations is a strong accusation to make without little to know proof. Obviously this is a message board and you can do that sort of thing, but it's dicey.
     

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