Potential small forwards tonight

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  1. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Meh, considering the cost of each player (Butler would obviously cost more than RJ, etc.), my preference is:

    1a. Caron Butler

    1b. Vince Carter

    1c. Gerald Wallace

    1d. Richard Jefferson

    Honestly, any would help.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Heh, I'd like to pay more and get a better player. ;) I'm kind of interested in a consolidation deal in which Portland picks up one more high-level player who can be a part of the core. Butler and Wallace fit that.

    Paying less for a short-term improvement, Carter or Jefferson, isn't a bad thing. Just less ideal to me.
     
  3. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    At this point, any one of them would get me :NOTMARIS: in a good way, so whatever KP does, I trust him.
     
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    RJeff is 29 - NOT THAT OLD. My wish list would be

    1) Butler
    2) RJeff
    3) Wallace
    4) Carter

    The only reason I rank Wallace over Carter is his contract. Wallace is fine, but he's always injurred. I like Vince, but he is 32 and you can't help but wonder if he'll fit in here. When he's not happy, he doesn't play hard (as we've seen before)
     
  5. Stevenson

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    Comment and question about Vince:

    Comment - He's having a great year.

    Question - If he's making $18 mil a season for 2 seasons, does that not put us in great position in 2 years for a FA when he comes off the books? He might be a nice placeholder for a couple of years.

    Is that accurate?
     
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    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    My raking exactly. Since I bet Butler is off the table, RJeff is the next best thing. He's an excellent balance of offense and defense. He immediately becomes the 2nd best player on the team if traded here.
     
  7. Kaydow

    Kaydow Well-Known Member

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    Who was the last big FA the Blazers sign? The next big one will be the first. We build our teams through the draft and through trades, not FA. I really don't understand the NBA somtimes. Why does everybody "value" expiring contracts so much? So they can go out and spend a gazillion $$$ on FA's?? I guess you could argue that vince would be a trade assett in 2 seasons, but we haven't had much luck with those expiring contracts for young talent type of trades . . . yet!! Maybe we unload RLEC for somebody good.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    It doesn't, because the team is going to shoot over the salary cap over the next two seasons. The extensions to Aldridge and Roy will be the primary things, though the current crop of rookies will all get more expensive year by year, and draft picks will eat more money.

    In 2011, Carter's money coming off the books will just drop us down to "less over the cap."

    However, at the 2011 trading deadline, he might have trade value as an expiring contract.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Yup yup, then we can bank on him getting injured and collect insurance money from it.

    Then we swing him for a younger SF.

    It is a vicious cycle. :D
     
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    OK, thanks.
     
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    The gift that keeps on giving...the perpetual trade exception. ;)
     
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    Karl Malone's Elbows Batum: once in a lifetime

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    1a) Wallace
    1b) Butler
    2) Keep RLEC

    I'm not in the least interested in The other SFs mentioned. And I'm only interested in the other two if Webster and Sergio are leaving. No to trading Outlaw for either player unless Portland gets a PG in addition to a SF. Otherwise I think Portland can do better this offseason.
     
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    Karl Malone's Elbows Batum: once in a lifetime

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    Butler may be better but I just haven't seen enough of him. The statline judge says Wallace is a better shooter and needs fewer shots to be effective. Wallace gets to the line more often, rebounds better, and plays two positions. Wallace seems more efficient and is two years younger. He doesn't shoot the three well but Porland has several good three point shooters already. Outside of Roy what the starting unit doesn't have is someone that can drive to the hoop, finsh and/or draw a foul. That happens to be one of Wallace's greatest strengths.
     
  14. BalancedMan

    BalancedMan That's out of context....

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    Jefferson is younger than Butler by a few months. FWIW. They're both 28, not 29 as someone else said.
     
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    BalancedMan That's out of context....

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    Jefferson would be by the far the easiest to acquire. I don't see why Charlotte would move Wallace, even for money reasons, in just a dump. Same with Butler. The Bucks though, want the cap space more than anything, and we can give it to them. Jefferson would be a great option 2b with Roy (1) and LMA (2a)
     
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    WWBRoyD Psychic Guru of Confucius

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    Think about this. Jefferson's name is the only name you have not heard in a "real" rumor. The only place Jefferson's name has come up is when Canzano did his bit that a random caller to his radio show was going to determine the trade rumor he was going start. That caller said "Blazers trade for Jefferson and Rid." Canzano put up a post on his blog saying "An anonymous source says the Blazers are interested in trading for Jefferson and Ridnour..."

    Other than that, dead silence.

    What does KP say? "If you hear a trade rumor about a trade deal, it's likely to be already dead."
     
  17. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    THIS ISN'T TRUE.

    Potential trades can die and revive in an instant. There's a reason rumored trades tend to happen more than ones that come out of left base. Marion for O'Neal was speculated long before the deal actually happened. The Chandler dump as well.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Why keep RLEC? I'm really not seeing the benefits at this point.
     

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