Bulls/Kings/Blazers deal close? (Update: Deal done, just Bulls/Kings

MikeDC · Feb 18, 2009

From the Sac Bee:

The ongoing trade string begins...

It's been a year since it was down to the wire whether Denver would include Linas Kleiza in a Ron Artest deadline deal, so I won't blame those of you who forget the rules of this game.

It basically goes like this: hit refresh, then hit it again a little while later, then hit it again. I'll be updating this particular post with chatter of the day, although I can't adhere to any sort of update quota because I just don't know how it will go. In the event something more formal goes down, we'll break off and cover a trade in the more conventional form (an actual story). Most likely, we'll reconvene and do it all over again tomorrow up until the noon deadline.

So we start here...

(11:09 a.m.)

The interest for John Salmons remains high, and a Chicago scenario reported by ESPN that would involve both Salmons and Brad Miller is a real possibility. The two sides could agree to the exact Miller-Salmons scenario laid out by Marc Stein (Andres Nocioni: three years, $22 million remaining with team option for $7.5 million in 2012-13; Drew Gooden's expiring deal worth $7.1 million) or a variation of it (For the record, I have confirmed that particular offer but there are certainly moving parts too).

Miller/Salmons for Nocioni/Gooden from a salary cap perspective: It saves the Kings $13.5 million in cap room for next year, but they add $6.9 million in 2010-11 and $6.7 million in 2011-12.

Miller/Salmons for Nocioni/Gooden from an overall financial perspective: the Kings wind up spending $25,000 more than before.

The Kings have discussed the possibility of acquiring Kirk Hinrich as well, and he could be inserted into this deal instead of Nocioni.

Miller/Salmons for Hinrich/Gooden from a salary cap perspective: It saves the Kings $11.5 million in cap room for next year, but they add $9 million in 2010-11 and $8 million in 2011-12.

Miller/Salmons for Hinrich/Gooden from an overall financial perspective: the Kings wind up spending approximately $3.4 million more than before.

* Dallas will remain in the mix for Salmons in a trade involving Jerry Stackhouse's quasi-expiring contract ($7 million this season, $2 million guaranteed next year). They like Miller too.

* New York is very involved, although I was told by league sources that they are contemplating Brad Miller or John Salmons. A package for both to be exchanged for Stephon Marbury's expiring $20.8 million deal could be attractive for the Kings, although it's not nearly as attractive as the Kenny Thomas/Miller for Marbury deal that the Knicks reportedly declined.

(11:19 a.m.)

* Rule out the Hinrich element in the Chicago talks. The framework is Gooden/Nocioni for Miller and Salmons, and it's - once again - a real possibility.

* Sources report that the Kings are also contemplating a deal that would send Miller to New York for the expiring contract of Malik Rose ($7.6 million) and Jared Jeffries ($6 million this season, $6.4 million next season, player option for $6.8 million in 2010-11). The Kings want Nate Robinson as well ($2 million expiring).

* I expect Dallas to push for Salmons over Miller.

(12:10 p.m.)

* Salmons is a popular man. And I badly wish I could share a line from one particular contact about just how popular he is (family newspaper and family blog) but I'll resort to sharing the humor around the office.

Anyway, Oklahoma City is in the mix as well with the expiring for Desmond Mason ($5.3 million) and three priceless first round picks at its disposal. San Antonio is involved as well, but doesn't appear to have enough to get it done.

* According to a Kings Twitter update, Salmons and rookie point guard Bobby Brown won't play tonight against Atlanta. Hmmm... To be fair, I wasn't aware of a Brown injury but Salmons is dealing with a back problem.

* To pass the time while you wait, go ahead and read this Newsday piece that may have just revealed that the Maloofs' financial troubles are far worse than previously thought.

(12:32 p.m.)

* I've been told more about the Chicago-Kings deal and had the pieces confirmed.

It's Salmons and Miller for Nocioni, Gooden, Michael Ruffin (expiring worth $1.1 million) and Cedric Simmons ($1.7 million expiring). And there are indications that it's close to happening.

(12:47 p.m.)

* Kings PR man Darrin May tells me Salmons is out with the back problem and Brown has a sore left knee.

(12:51 p.m.)

* It's getting stranger by the minute. I'll say that much.

There are a few conflicting signs out there, but a top source says the Kings are talking to New Jersey about a deal that would send Miller and Salmons to the Nets for hometown boy Ryan Anderson ($1.2 million this season, $1.3 next season with two team options thereafter), Stromile Swift ($6.2 million expiring), Trenton Hassell ($4.3 million this season with $4.3 million next as player option), and Eduardo Najera ($3.4 million this season, $3.1 million in 2009-10, $2.8 million in 2010-11 and $2.6 million in 2011-12).

(1:17 p.m.)

* Per a comment about Najera's contract, I did more digging and found something interesting.

While he is on the books for $3 million in 2010-11 and $2.7 million in 2011-12, he is only guaranteed $2.5 million and $2.2 million, respectively. That's all he gets if he is waived before June 30, 2010. And there isn't a team option or a player option involved.

(1:36 p.m.)

* There are indications that the Chicago deal is close to done, and it involves Portland.

Ike Diogu comes to Kings for Ruffin.
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alex42083 · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

Ike Diogu for Michael Ruffin? huh?

MikeDC · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

As a Bulls fan, I don't want Salmons. I also don't understand the reported Blazers interest in him. He seems like a one year wonder who's generally sucked and has a bad contract.
I don't see why the Kings would prefer to pay Ike Diogu more money to sit on the bench than they'd pay Ruffin to sit on the bench.

number 10 · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

why does Sacramento do that? I thought that Nocioni had no value at this point, he's just a bad contract.

MIXUM · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

why in gods name would we want ruffin? amazingly id rather have ike.

B-Roy · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

Uh...ok....

craigehlo · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

MikeDC said: ↑

As a Bulls fan, I don't want Salmons. I also don't understand the reported Blazers interest in him.
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He's insurance if Gordon walks this summer. The Bulls pulled a really nice trade IMHO.

MIXUM · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

bulls made a great deal

rose, gordon, salmoms, deng, miller

alex42083 · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

This would be kind of funny. All of this talk with RLEC and Jefferson, Caron and Vince... and it's Ike for Michael Ruffin!!

MikeDC · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

Ooops, done deal and the Blazers are not involved.
http://sportstwo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1914501&postcount=4

It's a done deal!

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/02/18/bulls.kings.trade/

Aldridge: Bulls to land Salmons, Miller for Nocioni, Gooden

By David Aldridge, TNT analyst
Posted Feb 18 2009 4:33PM

The Sacramento Kings are the latest NBA team to engage in cost-cutting moves that will pare money from the team's books next season.

The Kings agreed on Wednesday to a trade that sends forward John Salmons and center Brad Miller to the Chicago Bulls in exchange for forwards Drew Gooden and Andres Nocioni, according to league sources. The deal will reduce Sacramento's obligations next season, saving the Kings millions on the salary cap and keeping them well under any potential luxury tax payments. Gooden, making $7.15 million this season, will likely come off the team's cap after this year, and now, the team is free of the $5.4 million due to Salmons in 2009 and the $12 million due to Miller in '09.
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MAS RipCity · Feb 18, 2009

hear we go again, its green for wafer all over again...WOOOT!

alex42083 · Feb 18, 2009

Nocioni has an ugly contract though..

Wizard Mentor · Feb 18, 2009

Re: Bulls Kings Blazers deal close?

MikeDC said: ↑

As a Bulls fan, I don't want Salmons. I also don't understand the reported Blazers interest in him. He seems like a one year wonder who's generally sucked and has a bad contract.
I don't see why the Kings would prefer to pay Ike Diogu more money to sit on the bench than they'd pay Ruffin to sit on the bench.
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I've only watched about 3 Por-Sac games, but Salmons was scoring easily in all of them.

MAS RipCity · Feb 18, 2009

WTF is Sacramento doing?Salmons is one of their decent players and they deal him for Noc?!?!?1

alex42083 · Feb 18, 2009

Damn.. no Michael Ruffin! kidding.
I wonder how it even gets to that point though through The Bee's sources. Why would anyone think there were whispers of Ike for Ruffin?

And with all these other papers with Trade Deadline blogs... where's Quick and Freeman? We've gotten nothing from them.

number 10 · Feb 18, 2009

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3916703

Michael Ruffin of the Bulls also was told be was being traded to Portland in a separate deal, the source added.
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emphasis mine

MIXUM · Feb 18, 2009

kings might lose every game the rest of the season.

WHY DID WE TRADE FOR RUFFIN??????

number 10 · Feb 18, 2009

MIXUM said: ↑

kings might lose every game the rest of the season.

WHY DID WE TRADE FOR RUFFIN??????
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I almost hope we stand pat, just to see you freak out

ehizzy3 · Feb 18, 2009

so are the bulls gonna make another trade???

MrJayremmie · Feb 18, 2009

Nice! There goes Salmons! I'm actually getting really nervous. This is fun.

Maybe Portland WAS involved and are trying to get Luol Deng now that Sac got Salmons?!?!?! WOOHOO!!

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