Ruffin to Portland (Merged)

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  1. Ed O

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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    Yeah I don't see how or why that would work as a straight-across deal. I am thinking it's a glitch in the Trade Machine on ESPN, because both teams are over the cap and the two salaries aren't close enough.

    As part of a bigger deal, though, involving Sacramento? Yes, then it could work.

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    Yeah, this deal makes no sense unless something else is happening. Otherwise, it's an idiot's trade.
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    There would be no other reason to send Ike and cash to Sacto without a much, MUCH larger deal about to be announced involving a third team.
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    I'm not sure we actually save any money. The difference between Ike's "sticker price" and Ruffin's is about 2 million. But the season is more than half over, so we only get to save a bit less than half of that; if we're also giving the Kings $1M in cash, I think it ends up being a wash in terms of dollars and cents. All we get is a crappy backup big man (more or less crappy than Ike? who knows?) and a $2M trade exception... which might help us do something more interesting.
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    We send out more than we receive. That's how trade exceptions are created.

    The two ways they can be made are:

    1. Dealing with a team that has cap space to absorb the difference, or
    2. Being part of a big deal where the allowed margin is significant because the overall contracts are so large (like with the exception we got in the Zach/Francis deal)

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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    Are we going to be over the luxury tax threshold?

    If we are, remember you have to double the difference. Plus, while Ruffin makes over a million, I believe he is a veteran so only counts as $800k.

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    How does sending $1 million to the Kings save money? I ask because I don't know the answer.
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    On whose part? Not the Blazers, because
    (a) they sent out cash to the Kings/Bulls whomever got Ruffin
    (b) THIS IS THE BLAZERS - it's never just about money.

    That report seemed to be wrong: it said that Ruffin came from the KINGS. But he was a Bull. Does this mean that the Bulls sent him to the Kings first? That would explain why it's a separate deal that sends him to Portland, rather than just part of a three-way, and would also support the trade exception thesis. But it would throw cold water on any other Chicago players denging our way.
     
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    Thanks. We must be planning on using that trade exception for something better.
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    Ooh good call... forgot about the lux tax ramifications. Maybe we do save a bit of cash after all...
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    Canzano speculated on the sports update that we did this as a money-saving move as well in terms of our salary cap to make a splash instead in free agency this summer.
    Maybe the trade offers we were getting were underwhelming.
     
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    LaFrentz and Outlaw for Deng and Hinrich works due to Deng's BYC status. Maybe the Ruffin/Diogu trade does something for the roster space.
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    Unless KP thinks Ruffin is ready to have a break out year . . . at 32 years old.

    Career 1.8 PPG/4 Rbs
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    that would be a steal. no way we could get that done.
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    The Bulls currently have two SF in Deng and Salmons that are starting quality. Do they keep both?
     
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    Hope not... though they do have two starting quality PGs as well..
     
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    Re: Ruffin to Portland

    How does it save cap space this summer? Wasn't Diagu at the end of his deal? Couldn't he just be renounced? Same with Frye, I suppose.
     

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