Re: Ruffin to Portland 95.5 reporting we through in 1 million cash on this deal. We wanted that trade exception, it wasn't about saving money............
Re: Ruffin to Portland Ike may be the best guy in the world. He is payed a lot of money, to play basketball, and not even play most of the time. He knows how to party and have a good time, I am sure he will "survive".
Re: Ruffin to Portland We save money even if we throw in a million bucks. Without that money, Sacramento might not do the deal. Ed O.
Re: Ruffin to Portland That's hilarious when you think about it. Thanks for the TE, Mike, now don't bother showing up and continue to enjoy your vacation!
Re: Ruffin to Portland His example seems to not be supported by the rule he states. He said exceptions cannot be combined, not that exceptions cannot be combined in trade with players. You can't use it with the "125% + $100,000" exception, but the rule he states doesn't seem to forbid combining a trade exception with a player in exchange for another player where the salaries match. Hmm. Interesting. I'm a bit confused. I guess Tom Penn will figure it out.
Re: Ruffin to Portland I know we have Tom Penn and he's great and all, but I just can't see the Blazers burning up the phone lines to save a couple million bucks. I can't think of them EVER doing a deal just to save money in the past. I really think it is for a trade exception and something else is brewing.
Re: Ruffin to Portland Part of it might have been "Christmas in Feb" for the Kings from Santa Paul. Kings are so cash-poor they have forbidden staff from working overtime, sent out a memo there will be no additional salaries taken on, and even forbidden staff from eating any food at the press buffet table.
Re: Ruffin to Portland Basically, the trade exception can't be used as "filler" to make a trade equal. What if the exception actually fits in to a existing deal and has no impact on the 125% plus $100k?
Re: Ruffin to Portland Repost. TE's are almost better than Raef, b/c you get to save 2.9M off of 2.9M, not 80%.
Re: Ruffin to Portland I assume they're just being efficient. I also think the trade exception was the thing (but then, if it can't be used with players in a trade, which I'm unsure of, it's not useful), but I think the team would be happy to do a deal that doesn't hurt the team and saves cash. To me, an ideal owner-GM relationship would be that the GM tries to optimize costs when he can and the owner pays money when the GM needs him to.
Re: Ruffin to Portland You set up trades the most advantageous way to both parts. So if we do a 3-for-3 trade, but it's better for the other team to do a 3-for-2 and a TE-for-1, or a 2nd-rounder+TE for one.
Re: Ruffin to Portland The deal works just fine if it's a single three-way trade. My guess is that's the case and it's just not being reported correctly. The question is whether this is just a salary dump to clear more cap space for the summer and save luxury tax and salary this year, or if it's part of a larger move to clear a roster spot. I love this time of year...except for the MIXUM rants.
Re: Ruffin to Portland The question seems to be whether the TE can be used in combination with players in a trade. Larry Coon's FAQ is hazy on the issue to me. The rule he states doesn't seem to forbid it, but the example he gives does.
Re: Ruffin to Portland im sure the TE is part of another deal... has to be like i said... when ruffin is waived... it will free up roster space for more guys coming back and we get a TE. its just odd taht all of asudden with less then 24 hours to the deadline... we trade for a TE
Re: Ruffin to Portland Well, if we use the RJ/Ridnour for RLEC/Sergio/Outlaw deal, a $2.9 million TE still fits into the deal without having to use another exception. Seems like it would work to me? http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cu3bnt Milwaukee takes in $17.6 million w/out TE, $20.5 million w/TE Portland takes in $19.7 million regardless. This trade works with or w/out the TE, and no other exceptions are needed.
Re: Ruffin to Portland Here's a pretty good article on it, quoting Larry Coon in more depth: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=10274 Ed O.
Re: Ruffin to Portland We're doing him a favor. He gets minutes on a bad team where he can get points and rebounds. It sets him up to get more money next year.
