No Deals at the Deadline Reaction Thread (Merged)

Re: Peoples Anger and Reactions........

I guess you and I have a different opinion on what is pure hatred and meaness. I have not seen that on this board.

 

Re: My thoughts on no big trade

My thoughts on no big trade:

I feel worse about it than when Damon was caught at the airport.

Opportunities to get a player of Wallace's caliber rarely come along, and we blew it.

 

Re: My thoughts on no big trade

The same opportunity is there this summer, or do you not understand what being under the cap means in terms of taking on a contract? Plus, Wallace hasn't even been in the playoffs as a starter.

I think you are overrating him.

 

I agree with a couple of posters who said we have two primary problems; lack of perimeter defense and a 2nd scoring option (Roy has recently commented on this, basically saying he needs help).


Since we decided not to address those problems by trade, then the problems need to be addressed internally.
Apparently we have been hoping that certain players would become more consistent and more focused and these problems would be resolved. That hasn't worked and I don't think that players like Outlaw will ever get it. I am not sure if Blake or Rodriguez have the physical tools to be better defenders


Since the best that can realistically be hoped for is that we limp into the playoffs and get eliminated in the first round, I propose that we give more playing time to players that still could improve. I think that Batum has the tools to be a great defender and maybe a better than average offensive player. So let's give him 35 minutes a night to develop. Bayless seems to be the only point guard with the quickness and speed to become a great defender, so let's give him the starting job and let him become what he can become. He may also develop into more of a creator. There is not enough time in the regular season for these guys to develop solely during the limited practices. Also you cannot develop always playing against the same guys.

I think we tried to trade Outlaw, Sergio and Frye and nobody really wanted them. Other GM's believe they have already reached their potential. So put them on the bench where they belong.

Also, if we value Rudy so much, then the team needs to figure out how to utilize him more. If Roy wants another creator, he needs to work individually with Rudy and learn to trust him. This should also be given priority over winning games now.

I guess what I'm saying is that if Allen and KP have decided we are going to stick with this group and not bring in a veteran who can help now, then let's stop putting an emphasis on winning now (they have already stopped that by their inaction) and put an emphasis on solving our internal problems.

 

But wouldn't we have to add more players if it was <13 Million?

 

I don't quite follow you. Add more players to what?

 

Yeah you lost me too B-Roy

 

To the deal. To match salaries.

 

Teams under the cap don't need to match salaries provided there is room under the cap after the trade to accept the contract.

 

If the contract we were taking was a number greater than the cap space, then there would have to be a contract added. I think that's what B-Roy is asking.

 

No, if Portland is under the cap, they can take back more salary than they send out. That's how the other team saves money.

 

OK, that makes sense.

 

Oh, I see. Then yes. We could take back $X million less in salaries in a deal, where X is the cap space. If we took back $20 million in salary, and had $10 million in cap space, we'd have to send out $10 million in salaries.

 

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Say we traded RLEC+Outlaw for Vince right now. It would work.

But if we let RLEC expire and be left with 6 million in free capspace, we would have to trade more than just Outlaw in order to take back Vince's contract, correct?

 

Depends, but I'm guessing it will be even more of a buyer's market as time goes on after the season.

 

It doesn't matter what the deal is. The point was that if the player we were getting back makes more than 6 Million, we'd have to add more players.

 

The roster is near full as is, and that's without draft picks. Do you expect to keep everyone, draft a player, and not send anyone out. I'm convinced that either Outlaw or Webster are gone in any summer trade, and I'm fine with that if it upgrades as position of need.

Plus, the TE is a part of the equation as well.

 

I don't think you can package the TE with a player.

 

No, but it could net us a draft pick, the rights of which could be packaged with a player.

 

Agh, no more rookies. No more rookies!