OT: Jazz 0-8 vs top 9 WC teams on the road

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  1. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Remember we have to go on the road too, against the Pacers, Griz and Hawks (and Cavs and Bucks too).
     
  2. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

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    It's one game....you still have to beat Mavs too. It's not like Atlanta is a bad team either, so have fun with them.
     
  3. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    As expected. When was the last time the Jazz beat a >0.500 team on the road?

    Next up: Miami

    In the Hole: Orlando

    BNM
     
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    i think in this game lowry has gotten more minutes because the rockets went on a big run while he was in in the 2nd quarter. no reason to take him out when the team is doing great with him.
     
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    Yes I did see the Flop on the screen. Hilarious since the Jazz themselves flop so much. It was a bad call.
    But nothing like the jump ball. It had to be some sort of make up call, because it was so blatant, and the ref was standing right there.
     
  6. KingSpeed

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    We lead the division right now, before the Mavs game is even played. We owned Atlanta in Atlanta last season and we're much better this year.

    Woohoo!!!
     
  7. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    They aren't exactly lighting it up against the Mavs tonight.
     
  8. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

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    I think everyone should blame you for the loss for being cocky :ghoti: Atlanta has improved quite a bit from last year just from their demeanor and confidence they play with now
     
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I blame it on Utah being an awful road team. It's not just their road record, it's their total inability to beat even average teams on the road. They have a grand total of ONE road win against a team that is currently above 0.500 - and that came on December 19 against Detroit (currently 32-31). Their second "best " road win was against Philadelphia (currently 31-31) all the way back on November 11.

    That's it. All their other road wins are against sub 0.500 teams: TOR (23-42), IND (28-38), GSW (22-42), MIN twice (19-45), SAC twice (14-50), MEM twice (16-47), NJN (28-36) and LAC (15-49).

    So, over half their road wins are againt the four worst teams in the Western Conference. The last time they beat a team that isn't currently at least 10 games under 0.500 was almost 4 months ago. The combined records of the teams they've beaten on the road is 228-411.

    Now, the Blazers aren't a good road team either, but they have quality road wins against: ORL (47-17), NOH (40-23), MIA (35-29) and DET (32-21).

    The 12-game win streak was fool's gold - the product of an extremely friendly home-heavy schedule. Given the fact that most of Utah's remaing road games are against >0.500 teams, I think the NW Division is Portland's for the taking.

    BNM
     
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    So we're going to to blame the Blazers losing on the Jazz being an awful road team :confused:
     
  11. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I thought you were refering to the Utah's loss to Atlanta - not the Blazers loss to the Mavs. I saw loss and Atlanta in your response and incorrectly concluded you were talking about the Jazz.

    Still, I think Utah's lack of success on the road, aainst even mediocre teams, as illustrated in my previous post, does not boade well for their chances of winning the NW division title - especially given the large number of road games they have left against good teams.

    Do you disagree? Or do you think, given the remaining schedules of Utah, Portland and Denver, that Utah can hold onto their slim lead and win the division?

    BNM
     
  12. J_Ray

    J_Ray JBB JustBBall Member

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    I have confidence in Utah down the stretch with their team finally getting healthy, while Denver is taking a nose dive with word Karl is losing his team yet again, & Portland is starting to get beat-up health wise. This is the time of the year Utah starts to show up to play in recent history too. To tell truth though, it doesn't really matter for Utah as long as they don't end up in the 7th or 8th seed because they play much better during the playoffs with at least a days rest in between games.
     
  13. KingSpeed

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    Crisp? LOL!!!!
     
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    Now now, the only Blazer's road win against a top 9 WC team was a crazy comeback from a Paul-less Hornets team so I wouldn't exactly be ragging on them for being so bad on the road when we're not exactly great either.
     
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    Please don't call out Utah for being bad for WCF Playoff teams on the road if you are a PDX fan.
     
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    Not to mention... how would you like to be held to your word from older posts based on your irrationality after losses?
     
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    With all due-respect - Utah is a veteran team with one of the best point-guards in th league and 2 all-stars on the roster. Their trouble away from home are a bigger concern than Portland's is. You would expect a young team to be better at home - but Utah is more experienced and their talent, while nowhere near as deep - is a lot closer to peak-form.
     
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    It seems wierd to me that you hear more talk about Utah's problems on the road than ours. We are only one game better than them because of the Chris Paul injury. If he doesn't go down we lose that game by 20 plus. I am excited to see the game tonight because we are playing very good right now. What we really need to do is beat Houston or San Antonio on this trip. If not I see this trip as a complete failure.
     
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    Which team is older?

    Which team has more experience?

    Which team has been to the Western Conference Finals?

    Utah's road woes are a much bigger deal than Portland's.

    Utah is a now-team in their prime. With contract problems looming, they will have to let a key player walk. Boozer, Milsap or Okur. Thus, they will have to work hard just to maintain. Forget high hopes for improving the roster.

    Portland is a team on the rise, that can keep any player they like. No one needs to be dumped right now for money reasons. They can potentially upgrade this summer with the flexibility they have. Dominated by young players it is of little current concern that they can't win on the road this season.
     
  20. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Most definitely.

    While it looks like Portland is currently only 2.5 games better than Utah on the road (16 - 20 vs. 14 - 23), that doesn't tell the whole story. Portland has five road victories over teams that would be in the play-offs today (ORL, MIA, DET, CHI, NOH). Utah has two (PHI, DET). And those two Utah victories are ancient history (Nov-11), Dec-19).

    Given the difficulty of their remaining road schedule, Utah could very well end up 14 - 27 on the road. The Blazers should win at least 3 of their remaining 5 road games, which would put them at 19 - 22 on the road.

    And, as a young team, this is one area where the Blazers should continue to improve. The Blazers have a realistic shot at being 6 games better on the road this season than last. Utah, on the other hand is moving in the opposite direction. Two years ago, they were 20-21 on the road, last year they were 17-24 and this year, unless they finally beat a top team on the road, they'll be 14-27 - another three game drop from last season (which wasn't all that great to begin with).

    BNM
     

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