Meh. The team won (big) on a night the offense looked out-of-sync. I'll take it. Winning with defense and rebounding may not be as entertaining, but it is still a win! BTW, did I read the boxscore right? The Blazers had more offensive rebounds (21) than the Grizz had defensive rebounds (20). That is impressive!
I also wonder where all of the posters who were promoting Conley Jr. after the last Blazer/Grizz game are right now. I said fluke shooting performance. You said get him.
booed really hard. cheered when he launched up brick city. he got booed so hard that guys that looked like him (Warrick) got booed by residual drunk fans.
Yeah I was at the game... shameful how hard they were booing. WHY????? You can't really be mad that a guy's just trying to play, can you? He already has 18 million coming to him the next few years no matter what, besides his previous salary. So you can't say he's doing it for the money. He's at the end of the bench for one of the worst teams in the league. So you can't say he's doing it for the fame or the attention. He's trying to come back to play for the sake of playing the game. How is that not respectable for anyone? Yes, he hurt our cap. But that's not his fault. That's John Nash's. We can't be mad that he 'ruined' our cap. The guy is trying to play. Give him a break. The majority of players in his situation would just take the 18 million and sit at home instead of going through the excruciatingly hard task that is a return from MF surgery. For trying to come back and succeeding, you have to at least respect that. Right?
Its not about him hurting our cap. Its about Miles playing like a lazy POS with a bad attitude his last days on the floor in a blazers uniform. He would come to practice still smelling like booze from the night before, he called Mo Cheeks an N-bomb, and he would just walk the offense as a blazer.
So the 20 point difference through out the second half is not a factor? I would think that comes into play. Regardless my point is that Oden did not look un-coordinated. And i don't think he did at all.
Back from the game about an hour ago. Yeah, it was probably the most boring game we've been to this year, but I can't believe people are finding stuff to complain about after a 20-point win. I'm actually glad the game was boring. The Blazers did exactly what they needed to do - put the Grizzlies down on their backs early and not let them back up. That's exactly the way a play-off team should treat a cellar-dweller. The Blazers took care of business tonight. Perhaps it wasn't pretty, but it was effective - very effective. It's not often you score less than 90 and still win by 20. Memphis is a bad team, but the Blazers made them look even worse than they are. They have some talented offensive players on that team, but the Blazers challenged every shot and defended the paint well. With their cheap owner, small market and crappy team, I just can't see guys like OJ Mayo and Rudy Gay sticking around past their rookie contracts. Perhaps they won't walk outright, but they'll either demand a sign-n-trade, or re-sign and they complain until they're traded (like Pau did - the precedent has been set). The Blazers also totally, and I mean totally, dominated the rebounds - big props to Joel, LaMarcus and Greg. And anyone complaining about Greg's performance needs to get a grip on reality. He put up 12 and 9 in game where the final score was 86 - 66. Memphis rookies OJ Mayo and Marc Gasol have both been mentioned in recent ROY discussions. In 33:20 Gasol put up 10 points and 4 rebounds on 4 - 8 shooting, EFF = 12. In 34:42 Mayo put up 12 points, 1 reb and 5 ast on 6 - 14 shooting, EFF = 8. In 21:41, Oden put up 12 and 9 on 3 - 9 shooting, EFF = 14. So, Oden was more productive than Mayo or Gasol in far fewer minutes. Defense and rebounding won this game, and he was a big factor in both areas. I'll take his effectiveness over Gasol's "coordination" or Mayo's flashiness any day. The guy puts up 12/9 in less than 22 minutes in a 20-point win and people still aren't happy. Sheesh. Defense and rebounding wins games and it wins championships. With Joel and Greg, we get great rebounding and interior defense out of the center position for 48 minutes. I can't think of another team in the league that can make that claim. BNM
at a minimum he looked awkward. trouble establishing position when a shot went up, no real post moves other than using strength....he had a few nice dunks, that roll he did where he layed it up with finesse was nice...but some of the times he looked awkward on both ends of the floor. some mentioning his stats, but those stats more than not were made during garbage time...he played 6 minutes in the first half...by then the blazers were already in control...when he re-entered the game, I believe the game was already 15-18 points....so he maintained. I liked that he was able to get to the FT line but he needs to improve his familiarity with the game...which will come with more game time.
I have no idea how you feel compelled to spend your entire night critizing an out-of-shape rookie for having 12/9 in under 22 minutes. Despite being exhausted for half that time I thought he dug deep and played hard til the end. When you're exhausted, things like awareness are the first to go. I know he didn't do anything as taxing and skilled as writing critical messages over the internet, but it's a start. I doubt anyone could look at Greg right now and say, "Wow, he looks like a feral Gazelle leaping along the Serengeti." The difference between intelligent people and... you, is that they can grasp the rather obvious reasons as to why that's not the case.
Well, it's partly about the cap. The Blazers gave Miles a very nice contract when pretty much nobody else wanted him. I'd say they treated him pretty damn well. Despite that, he jumped at the chance to help Chris Wallace game the system and screw a team that had given him $18 million to retire. As for the claim that Miles is doing this for love of the game....this is a guy who never gave a hoot about "the game", his team-mates, the fans, or the guy paying his salary. After all those years of him just going through the motions, we are supposed to believe he is suddenly motivated by love of the game?
I did, an was joking with my wife who doesn't make many of the games with me that as fans we should boo people who are pulled from the crowd and perform as badly. You looked as if you fairly nice form, but were short on almost every shot. I did notice towards the end when you went from a standing shot to a mini jump shot, you made a few. I did have a theory, as I watched you shoot. I figured you were a ringer, and were intentionaly missing all your shots, so you could wow us all by making the half court shot.
I'm merely calling it like I see it. I stated he looks uncoordinated out there and he needs to improve when Hammar Hadidi or whatever his name is, is outhustling Greg when going up head to head. Nothing bad particularly about that, it was the truth. He needs to establish better position after the shot goes up, be more aware in the post and make better low post moves. Most of this is mental on his part, not due to him being exhausted. I really don't understand why people seem to take personal offense for honest gametime observations and analysis. I don't think I'm being overly critical or reactionary. get over yourself.
haha well freaking i felt like i could shoot without jumping and then well you know 20 thousand people kinda started making me feel nervous and shit so i had to start jumping to get to the rim and also the more oranger balls were a little bit different and a tad heavier and it threw me off.... i could come up with a shit ton of excuses but i almost felt like i woulda had a better chance shooting the half court shot than the 3 but oh well shit was fun as hell haha
Establish better position after the shot goes up? Are you talking about rebounding? The day people start complaining about Greg's ability to rebound the ball, I'll know they have lost it.
